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re: James Harden went off tonight vs OKC

Posted on 2/21/13 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/21/13 at 2:22 pm to
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Stopped reading after this. Can a non Houston fan honestly say they think Harden is top 5 in the NBA?



at this point he's prob in the top 12 or so. cant deny that
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
819 posts
Posted on 2/21/13 at 2:26 pm to
Yea, he is in my top 15. Closer to 15 than 5 though.
This post was edited on 2/21/13 at 2:28 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74456 posts
Posted on 2/21/13 at 2:32 pm to
Harden is basically a DWade lite before LBJ and Bosh joined the party.

He's not top 5 yet.

LBJ
Wade
Paul
Kobe
Howard
Durant
Duncan

Then you have a guy like Dirk, who you could put in there despite his struggles this season.

Harden gets grouped in with Parker, Irving, Westbrook, Melo, Aldridge, Love etc.

Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83780 posts
Posted on 2/21/13 at 2:34 pm to
not top 5 yet, imo.

but the top 5 will stay as it is until one of those guys retires anyway.

Top 10, IMO.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28052 posts
Posted on 2/21/13 at 3:28 pm to
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singed, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.
It doesn't mean they will score MORE... it just means they will have an easier time getting their buckets.

So it's a give and take. A good player will probably score more if he is the only scorer on his team and the offense goes through him, but it will be harder for him to score because defenses can key in on him.

His efficiency should go down and volume should go up. If you have other stars, efficiency should rise.

If you are efficient and you are the only scorer on your team, you are fricking good.
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 2/21/13 at 3:47 pm to
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If you are efficient and you are the only scorer on your team, you are fricking good.

Lebron in 2009 had a PER of 31.9 when he was with the Cavs, where he was the primary scorer. This year he's at 31.5. Even though he's seemed more efficient than ever this year, he's done it in tougher circumstances before. I guess he's an exception though.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 2/21/13 at 3:57 pm to
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. Better than Melo
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56453 posts
Posted on 2/21/13 at 4:06 pm to
Again, look at their numbers, and not on NBA 2K13. Not really lulzy.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 2/21/13 at 4:19 pm to
No way would I take Melo for Harden s/u.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56453 posts
Posted on 2/21/13 at 4:30 pm to
A vast majority of NBA GMs would probably agree with you.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/21/13 at 4:46 pm to
Melo is having a GREAT season.

his biggest question was always outside shooting. Well, he's attempting nearly SEVEN 3pt'ers a game, and he is shooting 40%. That is pretty damn good.

his offensive game is better overall than Harden's.

Both players are playing really good though. Id give a slight lean to Melo.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
291101 posts
Posted on 2/21/13 at 4:49 pm to
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Then you have a guy like Dirk, who you could put in there despite his struggles this season.



Dirk, statistically, has had his 2 worst season of his career basically, the last 2 seasons. He is trending down

quote:

Harden gets grouped in with Parker, Irving, Westbrook, Melo, Aldridge, Love etc.



i agree, except Aldrige.
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