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Jackie Robinson: "I Cannot Stand and Sing the Anthem. I Cannot Salute the flag"
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:34 pm
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In 1972 Jackie Robinson wrote his autobiography. In it he reflected on how he felt about his historical legacy as a baseball player, a businessman and as a political activist. A political activism, it should be noted, which favored both sides of the aisle at various times. He supported Nixon in 1960, supported the war in Vietnam and worked for Nelson Rockefeller. He did not support Goldwater and did support the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He supported Humphrey against Nixon in 1968. He was no blind partisan or ideologue. When you find someone like that you can usually rest assured it’s because they’re thinking hard and thinking critically in a world where things aren’t always cut-and-dried.
As such, this statement from his autobiography, describing his memory of the first game of the 1947 World Series, is worth thinking about. Because it came from someone who spent a lot of time thinking:
"There I was, the black grandson of a slave, the son of a black sharecropper, part of a historic occasion, a symbolic hero to my people. The air was sparkling. The sunlight was warm. The band struck up the national anthem. The flag billowed in the wind. It should have been a glorious moment for me as the stirring words of the national anthem poured from the stands. Perhaps, it was, but then again, perhaps, the anthem could be called the theme song for a drama called The Noble Experiment. Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first world series, I must tell you that it was Mr. Rickey’s drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never had it made."
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:35 pm to Bench McElroy
He kinda had to deal with a little different stuff though I'd say
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:36 pm to Bench McElroy
see the thing is Jackie Robinson experienced actual discrimination and segregation
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:37 pm to Bench McElroy
lolz.
Comparing kaperstink to jackie Robinson.
just lozy.
Comparing kaperstink to jackie Robinson.
just lozy.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:53 pm to Bench McElroy
American hero?
Or Uncle Tom?
Or Uncle Tom?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:58 pm to Bench McElroy
American hero?
Or Uncle Tom?
Or Uncle Tom?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:08 pm to beatbammer
Nobody called anybody an Uncle Tom.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:10 pm to Bench McElroy
As others have said already, Robinson grew up in a time when people were actually oppressed. Kaepernick (and all other minorities out there) have never had to put up with oppression. They're afforded every single right and every single freedom that every other person in the US has. Hell, some could argue that they're even given more than whites through affirmative action and the likes. Kaepernick is a punk fricking bitch. Minorities continually oppress themselves with the way they act, the illegal activities they do, and ALWAYS voting for a party that's ALWAYS been the party that marginalizes people. It's not our fault they make up most of the poverty and prisons in this country. It's theirs and theirs alone.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:14 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
And there it is
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:18 pm to Bench McElroy
Jackie Robinson was a US Army veteran. He put his money where his mouth is.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:20 pm to lsufball19
quote:Yea, good thing there's no more of that stuff going on in America
see the thing is Jackie Robinson experienced actual discrimination
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:31 pm to CptBengal
quote:
Comparing kaperstink to jackie Robinson.
Yeah, very stupid comparison.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:34 pm to Sammobile
quote:
Yea, good thing there's no more of that stuff going on in America
Care to elaborate on all the alleged discrimination?
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:45 pm to Bench McElroy
Being proud and blessed to be an American =/= support for any injustices that occur under that flag. I'm not sure why that is so difficult for many to comprehend, and I really don't understand what it's supposed to do to enact change.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:46 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:00 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
This fricking ridiculous. You have to be blind to believe minorities and white people have it just as easy in this country.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:05 pm to saintsfan22
quote:
Nobody called anybody an Uncle Tom.
Several famous black people have been called Uncle Toms for disagreeing with CK.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:15 pm to 23hella
quote:
This fricking ridiculous. You have to be blind to believe minorities and white people have it just as easy in this country.
No, I'm not trying to say that minorities have it as easy as white people. But that's through no fault of white people. Jim Crow ended long before most of the minorities today were born. And civil rights began like 50 years ago. So don't sit here and tell me that they don't have every fricking right that we do. They choose the life they have. Not me. That's the beauty of this country; you can be as great as you want to be. But it's a double edged sword. You can also be as low down as you want to be.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:22 pm to Bench McElroy
Jackie ACTUALLY faced oppression in a very different America.
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:22 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
The truth is somewhere in between.
Yes, there is still racism and it still does have some effect. Everything we are is affected in some ways by the complete history of our backgrounds, environments, chance, and opportunity.
But many of the biggest problems of crime and education are less about white people overtly discriminating against black people and more about interrupting cycles of violence - and conveying the importance of education to families that have not absorbed that as a priority.
#itscomplicated
#racismstillexists
#butracismisnteverythingorprobablymostthings
Yes, there is still racism and it still does have some effect. Everything we are is affected in some ways by the complete history of our backgrounds, environments, chance, and opportunity.
But many of the biggest problems of crime and education are less about white people overtly discriminating against black people and more about interrupting cycles of violence - and conveying the importance of education to families that have not absorbed that as a priority.
#itscomplicated
#racismstillexists
#butracismisnteverythingorprobablymostthings
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