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re: Jack vs Tiger

Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:19 am to
Posted by blueboxer1119
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Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:19 am to
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If Tiger would have left his swing alone, he'd probably have Jack beat in every category.


Not in fatness and chain smoking cigs.

That’s the only thing Jack has on Tiger.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:21 am to
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Tiger would have been more dominant if the equipment was dated when he played


People forget (or never knew) Tiger played with old Cobra woods with steel shafts.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:30 am to
I’ll agree that Tiger made a huge impact on the sport. He was must see tv like golf had never really had before. And the sport is still viewed close to that way to this day. But golf needs a flashy emotional type player that is exciting for fans. Rory is somewhat there but needs to win more majors. Scottie is great but rarely shows emotion the fans want to see.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37682 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:36 am to
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There’s an entire contingent who only got into golf because Tiger led them to it.

Yeah and you still see them out there fricking up the play and course ever since.
Posted by elprez00
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:37 am to
Jack says Tiger is better fwiw.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:38 am to
This is very true.
Posted by tigre704
Member since Nov 2018
1840 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:44 am to
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Tiger would have been more dominant if the equipment was dated when he played


Instead of talking about boring shite like sustainability this should be the talking point for the equipment rollback people. The Tour’s best chance of creating another version of Tiger is by removing all the equal footing. It’s been said plenty of times before but if they fixed the technology Rory would absolutely dominate
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
4396 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:48 am to
From what we know, yes, jack has had a much less tumultuous personal life.

I will say that in his heyday, we obviously didn’t have 24 hour media, socials, etc.

The guys that covered golf were drinking buddies with the players and wouldn’t have put their business out there like today’s scandal chasers.

This does not mean I think Jack had some shadow life, just we don’t know every single thing he ever did like we do about Tiger and todays players.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
7992 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 12:07 pm to
I never understood comparisons like these when golf majors are based on how well you do compared to what competitors did. Why are more comparisons not just solely score by score how good the golfer was?
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27165 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Where is the box for tiger had to win even tho he was black or asian or mixed…when he first came on the scene he had to deal with it AND win…jack never had to deal with those pressures
Yeah. Overcoming all that knowledge and wealth at Stanford shows what a true boot-strap guy Tiger really was.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
17147 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 12:40 pm to
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One has the better resume
18 vs 15 is a bullet. It’s not a resume

That 15 occurred in a much tighter timeframe and if not for a decaying body ends up somewhere in the 20’s

There really isn’t a comparison unless you’re a salty fossil
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 12:53 pm to
BS

He experienced nothing.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108566 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

He experienced nothing.
This is just as stupid as the original post

Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
1127 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 12:56 pm to
Think about the technology Tiger had over Jack. Ball technology advances alone put Jack as the best pure golfer imo.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108566 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 12:58 pm to
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Think about the technology Tiger had over Jack. Ball technology advances alone put Jack as the best pure golfer imo.
This is always so dumb. Do you think Tiger was the only one with the technology?

Technology helps lesser players and makes greater parity. It’s a disadvantage to the elite
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40779 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 12:59 pm to
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18 vs 15 is a bullet. It’s not a resume


I realize that. But in a sport like golf, it's a pretty heavy caliber bullet. Just majors in general. The 19 to 7 in runner ups and 55 to 26 in top 10's.

Tiger has 110 professional wins to Jacks 100 so Tiger has him there.

If you put stock in Ryder Cups, which I do, Jack has him by a lot there. 5 team wins and one tie compared to Tigers 1 win in 8 tries. Jacks overall record was 17-8-3 to Tigers 13-12-3.

People talk about Tigers amateur career but Jacks was equally as impressive.

quote:

Both Tiger and Jack had excellent careers in the amateur ranks. Woods won the US Junior Amateur three years running and then claimed the US Amateur Championship three years consecutively after that. He is the only man to win the US Amateur three years in a row. He played in the Eisenhower Trophy and the Walker Cup (although on a losing US team in 1995.) In addition, Woods was a six-time Junior World Golf Champion.

Nicklaus won the US Amateur Championship twice and played in winning Walker Cup sides on two occasions. He was also both a team and individual winner in the Eisenhower Trophy. As already mentioned, Nicklaus finished runner-up in the 1960 US Open while he was still an amateur.

When it comes to amateur achievements, we can probably say it was a hard fought half between the two greatest male players in our sport.


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That 15 occurred in a much tighter timeframe and if not for a decaying body ends up somewhere in the 20’s


I agree but also don't care about what ifs.

quote:

There really isn’t a comparison unless you’re a salty fossil


I'm 38 and an avid golfer. Started playing golf in part because of Tiger and have been a Tiger fan for a long time. Watched Tiger his whole career and never really got to watch any of Jacks. But I'm not going to ignore history and that certainly doesn't make you a salty dinosaur if you do. It is however extremely dumb to think that there isn't a comparison.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 4/2/25 at 1:06 pm to
The different equipment each had has nothing to do with comparison. Both players peers had the same clubs as them. A lot of people just don’t understand how hard it is to play at an elite level week after week and year after year. You have to have a special work ethic and desire to be that good. I don’t care what anyone says, golf is way more a mental game than it is physical.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37116 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

The different equipment each had has nothing to do with comparison. Both players peers had the same clubs as them.


It absolutely matters if you understand what modern equipment has done to golf
Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
1127 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 1:21 pm to
How can you discount that technology doesn’t help? All the video review, data collection, and advances in clubs/balls didn’t help Tiger at all?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 1:22 pm to
You missed my
Point. Jack played in his era and Tiger played in his.the clubs were different for both. And the players in jacks era played with the same clubs. Tigers era played with the same clubs he was using.
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