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re: Is the XFL sustainable?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:02 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:02 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Vince has a big picture plan in place for sure, should be fun to see how it all works out.
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 2:18 pm to Woolfman_8
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I just don’t see the XFL ever competing with the nfl or ever stealing players from the nfl. Maybe 10 years down the line, but I think the only way they survive 10 years is if the nfl steps in to fund some of it
What if it's not NFL owners that step in? What if the league has enough initial success that McMahon changes the business model to one that looks more like Major League Soccer and starts attracting investor/owners to run each franchise how they see fit?
What if the league starts allowing each team to sign four or five players each to contracts worth up to a million dollars per season? That's not enough to sign Brady or Rogers, but you could certainly make some end of the NFL roster players think about signing.
Like I said - I'm interested to see where things go after Year 1.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:00 am to southernelite
Another problem with starting now is March Madness next month.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:02 am to JohnnyKilroy
If games are played at night I wouldn’t think that would be a problem.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:15 am to Seldom Seen
The XFL seems different. The quality of play was shockingly good. I am surprised that I’m a believer, but I’m a believer.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:40 am to TulaneFan
Between the financial backing, marketing and TV contracts alone, they are far far better setup for success than the AAF, 2001 XFL, or any other NFL alternative in recent memory.
As long as the play on the field is good (and it looks promising) and the production/officiating matches (this looks even more promising) then they have a very real shot at a 2-3 year run at minimum.
As long as the play on the field is good (and it looks promising) and the production/officiating matches (this looks even more promising) then they have a very real shot at a 2-3 year run at minimum.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:17 am to TulaneFan
I think so. It’s in no way competing with nfl. I’m curious when March madness comes around what ratings look like
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:19 am to Starchild
If they can last for 2 years, I think the league should be able to get more money for better players. The first year or two is when the league has little money.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:43 am to Hamma1122
I'd also think a football-starved audience is more eager (thus larger) than a post season, satiated crowd. After the National Championship, I normally take that time to do things I wouldn't do when there's good football on to watch. Starting a well-run, professional season so soon after constrains my schedule for something that I've been enjoying for the past several months.
Fast forward a few months. By the midpoint between the CFP and Week[0], I'm ready to watch more football. There ain't shite on TV worth watching during the summer. A football season starting right around then would have me in a captive audience.
Fast forward a few months. By the midpoint between the CFP and Week[0], I'm ready to watch more football. There ain't shite on TV worth watching during the summer. A football season starting right around then would have me in a captive audience.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:46 pm to StraightCashHomey21
The Dallas team store only has small sizes as well... frustrating
Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:05 pm to TulaneFan
It'll be around as long as Vince wants to lose money on the league.
Alternative pro FB leagues haven't worked since the AFL.
Vince does have a better business model but the league ultimately has draw fans and ratings and O don't see it happening.
Alternative pro FB leagues haven't worked since the AFL.
Vince does have a better business model but the league ultimately has draw fans and ratings and O don't see it happening.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:24 pm to Woolfman_8
I don’t think it is sustainable long term if the plan is for it to be an NFL development league. There’s no market for that. It will have to challenge the NFL for viewership and players eventually. If people think their local XFL team is an elite football team that they are proud of then they might watch. Otherwise it’s just exhibition football. If you are going the development league approach then you should put the teams in cities that don’t have NFL teams. It would stand a better chance that way IMO.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:25 pm to TulaneFan
No. After the shine has worn off and the die-hard fans are all that's left, there will be some huge question marks about its sustainability. The casual viewer will be gone and I don't think there is enough of a draw otherwise. I'd love to be wrong. More football is impossible to to be a bad thing.
Will be very interesting to see the numbers this weekend...
Will be very interesting to see the numbers this weekend...
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:57 pm to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
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Another problem with starting now is March Madness next month.
Won’t be an issue. XFL is cleaning the NBA out in ratings.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 4:00 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Won’t be an issue. XFL is cleaning the NBA out in ratings
Have to agree with you here. Americans love football, when it comes to that this league is going to trounce any March madness games. Already has trounced NBA and CBB ratings
VM is a machine. He has an amazing product in the ring, will have one on the field as well
Posted on 2/12/20 at 4:12 pm to TulaneFan
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football that isn’t rigged
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:46 pm to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
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I hope so. But I think McMahnon should have waited until the NBA and NHL playoffs are over to launch this..
I disagree because the NBA and NHL regular seasons are awful if you do not have a team. I’d watch any XFL game over any February NBA/NHL game sans a game like Zion Williamson’s rookie debut game. The XFL is designed to feed our football buzz outside of the traditional autumn centered football season. If they become a showcase of college favorites and a stepping stone to the NFL for under-looked players, it should do okay.
My biggest concern is attendance. Lively crowds always make good live television. My biggest concern is this, especially in Tampa where they have been extremely mediocre compared to NFL peers in attendance.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 1:33 am to TheeRealCarolina
I’m probably not the only one who would much rather watch March Madness than meaningless regular season NBA games.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 1:39 am to Snoop Dawg
Maybe. XFL playoffs are still going to coincide with the early rounds of the NBA and NHL playoffs. Many would rather watch that. And I’m sure some won’t have any rooting interest either.
I do see your point about attendance though. LA doesn’t even care about the Rams or Chargers. Why are they going to care about this new team? I think the AAF had the right idea putting teams in cities with no NFL team with rosters filled with several local players.
I do see your point about attendance though. LA doesn’t even care about the Rams or Chargers. Why are they going to care about this new team? I think the AAF had the right idea putting teams in cities with no NFL team with rosters filled with several local players.
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