re: Is ND really any more overrated than LSU?

I think my argument is Notre Dame is not any more overrated than lots of major programs, and definitely not more overrated than LSU recently. So who are we to freak out that they’re ranked highly?

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I think my argument is Notre Dame is not any more overrated than lots of major programs,

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That's pretty vague though. What do you mean by lots? What do you mean by major? You're not really wrong but the metric isn't clear either.

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and definitely not more overrated than LSU recently

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I didn't make the argument that LSU hasn't been overrated. I think the argument most people have against ND is that their schedule doesn't provide the opportunity to get exposed like say an LSU schedule does.

For example, LSU goes 7-5 last year in the regular season with losses @ Vandy, @ Bama, @ OU, @ Ole Miss and A&M.


What if instead of playing Pavia on the road, Chambliss on the road, Alabama on the road, LSU instead played Purdue, Boston College and Syracuse? Does LSU win all 3 of those and get to 10 wins? I think they do.

What if the LSU schedule looks like.....

@Clemson
La Tech
Florida
Southeastern
@Purdue
South Carolina
@Boston College
Texas A&M
@Syracuse
Arkansas
Western Kentucky
@OU



Does LSU sneak into the playoff as a 10-2 team and proceed to get their absolute doors blown off? Absolutely.

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I agree with this in principle, but it's not for them trying to dodge teams. I value the ability to play teams from all conferences, but there are benefits to joining the Big10 or SEC. Full membership in the ACC or the Big12 would hurt the schedule more than it helps.

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Fair enough. I think, like I said in the earlier post, what bothers me is how ND can play a softer scehdule than a team like an LSU and still reap the benefit of the name on the jersey when it comes to selection. The committee has shown that it's better to play soft competition and win than play a tough schedule and take a few black eyes.


The watered down version of the LSU schedule I just posted would actually be quite similar to the ND actual schedule from last year.



LSU:---------------------------------------------------ND:

@Clemson - -------------------------------------- @ Miami
La Tech------------------------------------------------A&M
Florida ------------------------------------------------Purdue
Southeastern ---------------------------------------@ Arkansas
@Purdue---------------------------------------------Boise State
South Carolina -------------------------------------NC State
@Boston College----------------------------------USC
Texas A&M-------------------------------------------@ Boston College
@Syracuse-------------------------------------------Navy
Arkansas---------------------------------------------@ Pitt
Western Kentucky---------------------------------Syracuse
@OU ------------------------------------------------ @ Stanford




LSU probably wins as many or within one game of what ND won with that schedule and LSU was not a good football team last year.

LSU play SEC, Notre Dame play Boston College

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We have had a few real freaks, but they have either tended to be offensive linemen (Quenton Nelson, Joe Alt, Ronnie Stanley) or on defense (Jaylon Smith before the injury, Kyle Hamilton, Leonard Moore now). That certainly affects the perception of a program's top end ceiling.

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Which is a direct result of BK's inability to recruit a national championship level. If I remember the stat right, Freeman has more 5 stars on this year's roster than BK recruited his last like 5 seasons, or something similar without looking it up.

Just on offense CJ Carr is the Heisman favorite, the RB room is deep with guys who can be top end RB's, the WR has a lot of young, unproven talent that has potential to be special, and Ian Premer may be the next Brock Bowers.

It's what infuriates me about the LSU guys hating on ND's roster after seeing how shite BK was at recruiting first hand. ND of the last 5 years is a different animal than the BK era.