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re: Is LIV golf killing the professional sport of golf?
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:03 pm to RoosterCogburn585
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:03 pm to RoosterCogburn585
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Am I the only one who has no desire to watch their product?
No, I've tried...its awful.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:05 pm to Keys Open Doors
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What do you see happening with basketball?
Salary cap structures make it impossible to do much of anything that will be nearly as disruptive.
NBA is now allowing sovereign wealth funds to invest in teams, so it is anyone’s guess. Basketball is not their priority. I suspect cricket will be next. But they have enough money to be disruptive in any sport, except maybe football because it doesn’t have worldwide appeal.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:10 pm to TROLA
quote:You are correct in that they were paid what they were worth to the Saudis, yes.
How is it not correct. They are getting the money. They are worth that amount to liv who’s paying them. They aren’t worth that ti the pga who isn’t paying them.
Where you are incorrect is you said it's "basic economics." The Saudis 100% or 100000% did not pay those dudes all that money for economic reasons. They do not think that giving Rahm a half a billion will bring them a positive ROI financially.
It's kind of the literal opposite of "basic economics"
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:10 pm to lsupride87
quote:And calling it "basic economics"
Would be the equivalent of opening a restaurant and laying all the cooks 2 million dollars and losing 100s of thousands weekly
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:11 pm to lsupride87
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The pga tour response”. How would you like them to respond when an another organization is poaching their players paying them half a billion dollars?
Calling them bad Christian’s and telling them they are guilty of taking blood money probably wasn’t the best reaction. Especially when they turned around and merged with the blood money.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:22 pm to BBONDS25
I disagree with the blood money angle. But it was really their only play. To try and guilt then into staying or threaten
What should they have done? “Pretty please don’t take the 100s of millions they are offering?”
The fact is they were never going to be able to offer anything in the same galaxy from a financial perspective.
What should they have done? “Pretty please don’t take the 100s of millions they are offering?”
The fact is they were never going to be able to offer anything in the same galaxy from a financial perspective.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:24 pm to lsupride87
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What should they have done?
Listened to them years ago instead of laughing in their faces.
Once they left there is nothing they could do. Trying to shame them was stupid.
Rahm just officially announced.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:28 pm to go ta hell ole miss
Weirdly, baseball may appear to be a future play. I just learned about Baseball United, a four-team league where former MLB players are rostered.
Pablo Sandoval
Robinson Cano
Bartolo Colon
Didi Gregorious
and others.
Managers include Chris Sabo and Miguel Tejada.
LINK
Pablo Sandoval
Robinson Cano
Bartolo Colon
Didi Gregorious
and others.
Managers include Chris Sabo and Miguel Tejada.
LINK
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:29 pm to BBONDS25
Rahm did the same thing Jay did. Speak in absolutes then completely go back on their word, however, I don’t expect you do judge one quite like the other……
Truth is neither of them should have spoken in absolutes publically. It is foolish and serves no purpose.
And they could have given the players EXACTLY what they wanted years ago, and the Saudis would still over 100 million more. Then what?
Truth is neither of them should have spoken in absolutes publically. It is foolish and serves no purpose.
And they could have given the players EXACTLY what they wanted years ago, and the Saudis would still over 100 million more. Then what?
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:31 pm to BBONDS25
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Rahm just officially announced. beautiful
Just curious. As someone who lives in the United States, why does it excite you that a top 2-3 figure in a sport you love is leaving for another Tour where you know half of his events will be played in a different time zone? Is this an enjoyment of watching things burn down thing? Because I don't see how Rahm getting paid half a billion dollars should do anything for fans here in the States. I personally think it's sad that this is where we are now regardless of whose fault it was
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:33 pm to BBONDS25
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Rahm just officially announced. beautiful
Yay!!! A professional golfer that doesn't give an F about me will now make $500 million to golf in a league I don't care about.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:37 pm to BBONDS25
Golf Channel doing their propaganda number on Jon. What a bunch of paid assassins. Rahm can certainly change his point of view given that the PGA and Monahan have gotten in bed with the same Saudi money in the past few months.
Jon Rahm's exodus is scaring the PGA to death. If Rahm can go, who can't or won't? As Brooks Koepka might put it, it might be time to get Monahan a welfare check.
Jon Rahm's exodus is scaring the PGA to death. If Rahm can go, who can't or won't? As Brooks Koepka might put it, it might be time to get Monahan a welfare check.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:37 pm to lsupride87
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Rahm did the same thing Jay did. Speak in absolutes then completely go back on their word, however, I don’t expect you do judge one quite like the other……
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:38 pm to RedHawk
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Yay!!! A professional golfer that doesn't give an F about me will now make $500 million to golf in a league I don't care about.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:38 pm to lsufball19
Yeh I mean Rahm 100% went back on everything he claimed to so greatly hold dear in beliefs. It’s whatever, but it’s funny to watch some people just ignore this one when they have embeen screaming about Jay 
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:39 pm to lsufball19
It’s just a trolling thing. Everybody is coming around to the idea that LIV is watering down golf, but the trolls here just like to laugh.
Sucks for the average golf fan who just wants to see guys playing together.
Sucks for the average golf fan who just wants to see guys playing together.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:39 pm to bamameister
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Jon Rahm's exodus is scaring the PGA to death. If Rahm can go, who can't or won't? As Brooks Koepka might put it, it might be time to get Monahan a welfare check.
You're acting like LIV is an underdog in all of this. It is actually way more surprising that all of the top players didn't bolt right way. The PGA is in serious trouble, but glad you are happy.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:40 pm to lsupride87
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Rahm did the same thing Jay did. Speak in absolutes then completely go back on their word, however, I don’t expect you do judge one quite like the other……
Of course I won’t. One is a player the other is the commissioner of the PGA. A players only job is to do what’s best for himself. The commissioner has much more responsibility. That should have been clear to you.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:42 pm to McVick
Baseball will be a much tougher play for a number of reasons in my opinion
The amount of money required would be incredible
The tradition and fan allegiance tied to a geographical brand is incredible, especially ones with the tradition of a Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs etc
Singular stars don’t move the needle in baseball like they do football or the NBA
That’s just off the top of my head. I think it would be a terrible investment even from a sports washing perspective. The NBA is the obvious target if you’re going after a US team sport and even that has a lot of issues
The amount of money required would be incredible
The tradition and fan allegiance tied to a geographical brand is incredible, especially ones with the tradition of a Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs etc
Singular stars don’t move the needle in baseball like they do football or the NBA
That’s just off the top of my head. I think it would be a terrible investment even from a sports washing perspective. The NBA is the obvious target if you’re going after a US team sport and even that has a lot of issues
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 12:42 pm to lsufball19
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Just curious. As someone who lives in the United States, why does it excite you that a top 2-3 figure in a sport you love is leaving for another Tour where you know half of his events will be played in a different time zone? I
I like more golf. LIV gives me the opportunity to watch more golf. Rahm not being in the Byron Nelson doesn’t move my meter at all.
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