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re: Is LIV golf killing the professional sport of golf?
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:32 am to JimTiger72
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:32 am to JimTiger72
Do what now?
LIV puts on a fricking embarrassing event..
LIV puts on a fricking embarrassing event..
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:34 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:Coming from one of the only people here who actually fricking went to one…..
LIV puts on a fricking embarrassing event..
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:34 am to RoosterCogburn585
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Am I the only one who has no desire to watch their product?
I've watched a few and am not a fan of the broadcast and shotgun start. I just found it difficult to follow. I might watch more if it was more convenient to watch for me, but I don't have the CW on youtube tv. The split of the best players is what really sucks. For whatever reason, it also doesn't seem like the players take it as seriously. They completely botched the "team" idea too. If they did actual team events Ryder Cup style instead of what they are doing now they would be doing much better.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:34 am to RoosterCogburn585
The other side of the story that is getting little attention is the format change. Rahm wants that to change. I would agree, and I hope LIV concedes, given that players won't get world-ranking points otherwise. Otherwise, this is what free agency in pro golf is all about. Money and choices.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:34 am to PhiTiger1764
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I absolutely care about what players I get to watch on Saturday and Sunday. That’s the whole point.
It is for you & your golf on CBS every weekend. That’s not the whole point of LIV.
It’s a global product. It’s not killing the professional sport of golf, it’s just killing your golf on CBS every weekend
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:35 am to ReauxlTide222
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LIV puts on a fricking embarrassing event..
Sure… I’m sure they’ll never make improvements even when they add more teams & better players
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:35 am to JimTiger72
I hate to break it to you, but the TV experience is much more important than the live experience. I watch about golf about 99.5% of the time on TV as opposed to being there. I'd imagine that's the case for just about anyone.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:38 am to Smoke7024
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I hate to break it to you, but the TV experience is much more important than the live experience.
To you & your tv on the weekends sure. Is that the most important thing to LIV Golf? I don’t think so
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:38 am to JimTiger72
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It’s not killing the professional sport of golf, it’s just killing your golf on CBS every weekend
Fair. Professional golf isn’t going anywhere.
LIV is ruining professional golf for the American fan. That’s essentially not even an opinion. It’s a fact. For any actual serious golf fan, it is a fact.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:39 am to bamameister
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The other side of the story that is getting little attention is the format change. Rahm wants that to change.
The people "reporting" Rahm to LIV also reported there will be no changes to the LIV format. I find it hard to believe.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:40 am to PhiTiger1764
What about Spanish golf fans? European Golf fans? Australian golf fans?
I believe they are pretty excited to have a whole team on LIV Golf with some of their best players.
I believe they are pretty excited to have a whole team on LIV Golf with some of their best players.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:41 am to bbap
Honestly, the only thing that matters is those majors and Ryder Cup, all of that still exists with or without PGA and LIV
The majors stand separate from the rest
That's the only events anyone really cares about
The majors stand separate from the rest
That's the only events anyone really cares about
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:41 am to lsupride87
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ecause the organization paying them doesn’t care about ROI. The tour has to. That’s the entire point. The tour can’t match what LIV is paying because the players aren’t even close to being actually worth that.
Quit saying they didn’t have leverage. The mere fact that they left and received millions is the proof. It doesn’t matter what LIVs motivations. They left and the tour did nothing to prevent any of this. This whole thing has snowballed because of the tours inability to do anything for the average and aging player base that bolted, a few exceptions withstanding. The pga model became stale and rigid for some modern era players. I may not like it but that's the truth..
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:42 am to TROLA
quote:They left because they got bad 10x what they are worth
They left and the tour did nothing to prevent any of this. This whole thing has snowballed because of the tours inability to do anything for the average and aging player base that bolted, a few exceptions withstanding.
What do you think the tour could do to counter someone making 500 million?
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:44 am to lsupride87
I’m sure it can and will improve. I mean, genuinely hope it improves as it would be sad af if the sport is ruined over the shite product they put out.
The Valspar in lean years has 10x the gravitas as the LIV event I went to.
Imagine traveling to Paris and getting excited to finally sit down at some world class restaurant you’ve been planning on visiting and the place puts in the same effort as a long John silvers.
It’s not real. Some assholes paying these golfers frick you money doesn’t make any of it real. It feels like a fake business. You can absolutely sense that something is wrong.
The Valspar in lean years has 10x the gravitas as the LIV event I went to.
Imagine traveling to Paris and getting excited to finally sit down at some world class restaurant you’ve been planning on visiting and the place puts in the same effort as a long John silvers.
It’s not real. Some assholes paying these golfers frick you money doesn’t make any of it real. It feels like a fake business. You can absolutely sense that something is wrong.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:46 am to lsupride87
Hope and pray that Elon got really into golf because of Ernie Els and tell him his latest memes are awesome sauce and he is delivering epic pwns to all of his haters?
That’s the best I’ve got.
That’s the best I’ve got.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:48 am to JScoop8
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The people "reporting" Rahm to LIV also reported there will be no changes to the LIV format. I find it hard to believe.
I hope not. OWGR isn't buying it and in the long run, it just looks like LIV is fighting a battle they can't win on that front.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:48 am to RoosterCogburn585
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Is LIV golf killing the professional sport of golf?
Rahm is reported to make between $450-$600 million with LIV. It doesn't get more professional than that.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:49 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:Dude the guy that won the league just got traded for one of the worst players because Koepka didn’t like him
It’s not real. Some assholes paying these golfers frick you money doesn’t make any of it real. It feels like a fake business. You can absolutely sense that something is wrong.
Of course it isn’t real
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:51 am to lsupride87
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They left because they got bad 10x what they are worth
They are worth what they got paid. You know that as it’s basic economics.. they were wanted and had leverage to demand large sums.
Just because you don’t like what happened doesn’t change the current economic realities. Hell. I don’t like it and probably unsustainable but it’s their money and they chose this route to enter the arena of the sport.
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