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re: Is Leonard Fournette a top 10 NFL RB?
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:56 pm to hoopsgalore
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:56 pm to hoopsgalore
Jones has stretches where he looks like one of the few best player in the league. I love watching him play. I’d take him over everyone but Henry.
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Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:56 pm to PP7 for heisman
Kareem Hunt is better too
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:56 pm to PP7 for heisman
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James Robinson - probably better
Ekler - probably better
Mixon
Saquon (injuries - team sucks, kind of getting the Fournette treatment)
D'andre Swift
All definitely better than Leonard
Jonathan Taylor is better
Najee Harris is better
Chris Carson is better
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:57 pm to Crimsonite94
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Jacobs
Najee
Mixon
Edwards-Helaire
Taylor
None of these guys are clearly better than Fournette right now.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:57 pm to Crimsonite94
Those 50 yards/game are unbelievable
1 rush over 20 yards
He always falls forward but great NFL RB he is not
1 rush over 20 yards
He always falls forward but great NFL RB he is not
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:59 pm to D011ahbi11
quote:
All definitely better than Leonard
Well that's just not true. Robinson and Ekler probably are. Mixon averages less YPC, Saquon is never healthy (and has bad numbers this year). Swift is below leonard in every rushing category.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:59 pm to Crimsonite94
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Edwards-Helaire
quote:
Ekeler
The others on that list I can give you although I’d argue against a few like Najee just because he’s only played 5 games in the NFL and Robinson because no one else on his team can do anything so he gets unlimited opportunities.
I straight disagree about Clyde and Ekeler. Ekeler, while a great NFL player is in the perfect system for his skill set which is pass catching not rushing and Clyde really hasn’t proven anything so far in the league and seems to consistently be injured
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:59 pm to RemouladeSawce
I was about to say he doesn’t look unbelievable at all 
he is in a great offense and pretty much gets What the run is blocked to get. He is not really making anyone miss.
he is in a great offense and pretty much gets What the run is blocked to get. He is not really making anyone miss. 
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:00 pm to Tiger1242
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Ekeler is in the perfect system for his skill set which is pass catching not rushing
Think you could argue the same thing for Fournette
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:01 pm to D011ahbi11
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Najee Harris is better
Chris Carson is better
Statistics do not suppory this at all
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Jonathan Taylor is better
Statistics show they're virtually the same player.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:02 pm to PP7 for heisman
Jacob’s has back to back 1000 yard seasons and 19 tds in his first two seasons.
Najee is clearly better off eye test alone. Najee in the Bucs offense would have monster numbers. He also has most scrimmage yards by all rookies so far.
Taylor had an 1100 yard season and 11 TDs rookie year and its on pace to surpass that in a terrible offense.
Edwards-Helaire may be too soon to say he’s better, but I’m taking him over Fournette right now imo.
Mixon has injury issues, but clearly better when healthy.
Najee is clearly better off eye test alone. Najee in the Bucs offense would have monster numbers. He also has most scrimmage yards by all rookies so far.
Taylor had an 1100 yard season and 11 TDs rookie year and its on pace to surpass that in a terrible offense.
Edwards-Helaire may be too soon to say he’s better, but I’m taking him over Fournette right now imo.
Mixon has injury issues, but clearly better when healthy.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:02 pm to PP7 for heisman
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Swift is below leonard in every rushing category.
If we want to simply look at the stat sheet, Fournette is 23rd in rushing yards and 20th in ypc, so clearly he’d be outside of the top 10
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:03 pm to PP7 for heisman
quote:
Statistics do not suppory this at all
quote:
Jonathan Taylor is better
Statistics show they're virtually the same player
What statistics are you looking at?
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:04 pm to Crimsonite94
quote:Disagree. I’d take Fournette over CEH. Truthfully, I’d probably take Fournette over Jacobs right now.
Edwards-Helaire may be too soon to say he’s better, but I’m taking him over Fournette right now imo.
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:04 pm to Crimsonite94
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Jacob’s has back to back 1000 yard seasons and 19 tds in his first two seasons.
Leonard had similar numbers (minus some goalline touches) in his first and third year.
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Taylor had an 1100 yard season and 11 TDs rookie year and its on pace to surpass that in a terrible offense.
See above. Fournette in a terrible offense had similar numbers.
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Najee is clearly better off eye test alone. Najee in the Bucs offense would have monster numbers. He also has most scrimmage yards by all rookies so far.
I'll be honest, I don't watch many steelers games. I like Najee and think he has the potential to be a top 5 back in the league, but just looking at the stats you can't say he surpasses Fournette just yet.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:05 pm to D011ahbi11
This is what’s so funny about Fournette sunshine pumpers. They wanna talk stats, but stats show that he’s bottom tier in the league.
Fournette only is capable of top 20 and that’s in this amazing offense. He’s perfect for this system because he doesn’t have to be a star and he’s packs a punch when the defense is on its heels. He’s average at most franchises in the NFL.
Fournette only is capable of top 20 and that’s in this amazing offense. He’s perfect for this system because he doesn’t have to be a star and he’s packs a punch when the defense is on its heels. He’s average at most franchises in the NFL.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:06 pm to D011ahbi11
Fournette
56 carries for 251 (4.5 ypc) and 1 score
19 receptions for 167 yards
Taylor
73 carries for 327 (4.5 ypc) and 2 scores
14 receptions for 197 and 1 score
56 carries for 251 (4.5 ypc) and 1 score
19 receptions for 167 yards
Taylor
73 carries for 327 (4.5 ypc) and 2 scores
14 receptions for 197 and 1 score
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:07 pm to Crimsonite94
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This is what’s so funny about Fournette sunshine pumpers. They wanna talk stats, but stats show that he’s bottom tier in the league.
Fournette only is capable of top 20 and that’s in this amazing offense. He’s perfect for this system because he doesn’t have to be a star and he’s packs a punch when the defense is on its heels. He’s average at most franchises in the NFL.
I mean this is pretty disingenuous. He shined in jaxonville until they sold off their entire team. Then he was average, and now he seems to be trending back in the right direction.
No one is saying he's a superstar, but he's having a decent season right now.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:08 pm to PP7 for heisman
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Taylor had an 1100 yard season and 11 TDs rookie year and its on pace to surpass that in a terrible offense.
See above. Fournette in a terrible offense had similar numbers.
Jonathan Taylor 5.6 yards per touch for his career
Leonard Fournette 4.6 yards per touch for career
You tell me how that’s virtually the same player?
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:09 pm to Crimsonite94
I’m not trying to sunshine pump I’m asking a question, he seems to have resurrected his career.
And using 2nd year guys rookie seasons to supplant them ahead of Fournette is dubius, remember Fournette was a 1000 yard rusher as a rookie and in his 3rd year (he got hurt year 2), on a god awful team
And using 2nd year guys rookie seasons to supplant them ahead of Fournette is dubius, remember Fournette was a 1000 yard rusher as a rookie and in his 3rd year (he got hurt year 2), on a god awful team
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 9:11 pm
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