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re: Is James Harden the most overrated player in NBA history?

Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:15 am to
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:15 am to
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No one is claiming he is a top 5 player in the NBA
I should have used was since Anthony's rating has declined such that he is currently rated properly. However, he was seriously overrated as recently as 5 years ago when he was considered a top 5 player by many.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:18 am to
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he's this generation's taller version of AI


Harden isn't leading any team to an NBA finals.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:22 am to
Conference finals ceiling kinda leader.
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:23 am to
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he's this generation's taller version of AI


You should be freaking castrated. Are you kidding me?! God, I hope so. I really hope so...
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:24 am to
Harden overrated only by message board posters.

His fellow NBA brethren think he's so overrated they gave him their MVP last season.

Coach he competes against have said he's the hardest guy to guard that they've ever seen.

Coach K said he's the best leader they had for Team USA basketball.


You can tell how much NBA ball someone watches by statements like these that are in total disagreement with people whose livelihood is all about basketball.


This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 10:27 am
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:29 am to
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Harden overrated only by message board posters.


Nah, he's also overrated in real life. Haven't you seen all the videos out their shitting on him and his defense?

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His fellow NBA brethren think he's so overrated they gave him their MVP last season.

It wouldn't be the first time nba players had bad judgement.

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Coach he competes against have said he's the hardest guy to guard that they've ever seen.

If I had a dollar.....

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Coach K said he's the best leader they had for Team USA basketball.


but he can't lead houston, when it matters

Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:39 am to
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Harden isn't leading any team to an NBA finals.


AI played in a piss poor Eastern Conference. It's not like he was going through a bunch of great teams.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:41 am to
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AI played in a piss poor Eastern Conference. It's not like he was going through a bunch of great teams.


You made an idiotic statement that you should feel bad about. I'm not going to converse with you over this.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:41 am to
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You should be freaking castrated. Are you kidding me?! God, I hope so. I really hope so...


Only cares about scoring via hero ball? Check.

Lazy as all get out on D? Check.

Terrible team leader? Check.

The only difference is Harden isn't an alcoholic and he's a better 3 point shooter.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 10:49 am
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:47 am to
AI was the toughest guy on the court every night. He had steals in every game. Would smack you if you looked at him wrong.

Harden is the softest pussy in the league
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:51 am to
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He had steals in every game.


so? that wasn't good defense.

those were the result of him gambling all day.

he did just as much harm playing like that as he did good.


Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:00 am to
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he did just as much harm playing like that as he did good.


Quite the contrary. Why do you think he is heralded as such a beast? Because he wasn't good?

Harden will be remembered for good regular seasons, terrible defense, and disappearing in the playoffs.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:08 am to
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i can name at least 20 players I'd take over Harden,


Name the last 5 in that list. I need some morning comedy.
Posted by redfishfan
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:14 am to
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AI was the toughest guy on the court every night. He had steals in every game. Would smack you if you looked at him wrong. Harden is the softest pussy in the league


AI is vastly overrated by most. He was bad on D and a volume shooter. Steals are not a measurement of a good defensive player. With that being said AI always played hard and at least tried. Harden doesn't even attempt to try on the defensive end.
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:15 am to
Obviously no particular order. Just how they're coming in my head. And no I'm not kidding. I would take all of these players over Harden. But then again, I'd probably take just about anyone over Harden


LBJ
Steph
Russ
KD
AD
Drummond
CP3
Tony Parker
Tim Duncan
Draymond
Kyrie
Love
Demarcus Cousins
KAT
Wiggins
Kyle Lowry
Demar Derozan
Aldridge
John Wall
Wade
Bosh
Eric Bledsoe
Al Horford
Paul Millsap
Blake Griffin
Jimmy Butler
Paul George
Kawhi Leonard





Posted by td01241
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:16 am to
Harden is the anti AI
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18371 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:35 am to
Harden wishes he could sniff AI's armpit
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2012
4260 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:35 am to
I'm not sure I would have that many. I'd have maybe 15. But if I was trying to build a team, I wouldn't want to build a team around Harden. I would want an elite player to build around and bring in harden as an offensive contributor.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
92428 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:36 am to
C'mon man, that isn't what I asked. But looking at that list, there really are a lot of great players out there. You would end up selling out your offensive soul for a bit more defensive production with several of those guys.
Posted by HarrisLetsRide
Member since Jan 2015
1489 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:38 am to
This guy with the list gets it. I didn't say there were 20 better players, Harden is a talent. I just don't want him anywhere near my team
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