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re: Is College football broken?
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:11 am to Bham Bammer
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:11 am to Bham Bammer
The playoff though has really changed nothing in that regard. The biggest turn off though would be too many SEC vs SEC NCGs. Like I said, as an advertiser why would I pay big money to advertise to a target audience that is essentially Atlanta/ Birmingham year in and out.
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:17 am to ChiGator
All I know is Georgia has the potential to be Bama or even a little more dominant in the NIL era. Feel like their combination of rabid fanbase, resources, recruiting grounds, and proximity to the Atlanta money is just the perfect storm.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:18 am to KiwiHead
I think there have been three such games. That's not really that many.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:25 am to St Augustine
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All I know is Georgia has the potential to be Bama or even a little more dominant in the NIL era. Feel like their combination of rabid fanbase, resources, recruiting grounds, and proximity to the Atlanta money is just the perfect storm.
I’m thrilled.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:26 am to FairhopeTider
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What happens is people freak out and seek ways to create parity….which the big schools use to their advantage to create less parity.
Not always the case. Scholarship limits helped usher in the golden age of college football.
Before limits, the game was more regional, but the national powers had solved the way to win: sign everybody in your state/area. Leave no players for your rivals, beat them, and hope to get voted MNC at the end.
Now, the national powers have once again figured out the formula: use your resource advantage to take all the elite players regardless of location (though proximity helps, see UGA, LSU every 4-8 years, Alabama,etc).
Not sure what the fix is this time. I don’t think it’s further scholarship limits, but I could be wrong.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:26 am to ChiGator
This happens in every college sport, not just football.
Only a handful of teams win championships.
Only a handful of teams win championships.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:30 am to ChiGator
Compared to the 2000s as a baseline, the game of CFB lost its soul somewhere along the line.
Part of it is getting older, but part of it is simply that the vast majority of “important” games are lopsided affairs, and people know going into them that they are likely to be lopsided affairs so it limits intrigue.
In the event that upsets do happen, they rarely seem to matter in the grand scheme in part because of the expanded field. This also limits intrigue.
Rivalries seem as de-emphasized as I ever remember them. If you beat a rival but don’t make the CFP, many fans consider the season a failure.
The transfer rules and NIL just make it feel like NFL-lite football without the quality of play the NFL affords.
idk probably comes off as sour grapes but CFB as it was in 2007 was a superior product to this.
Part of it is getting older, but part of it is simply that the vast majority of “important” games are lopsided affairs, and people know going into them that they are likely to be lopsided affairs so it limits intrigue.
In the event that upsets do happen, they rarely seem to matter in the grand scheme in part because of the expanded field. This also limits intrigue.
Rivalries seem as de-emphasized as I ever remember them. If you beat a rival but don’t make the CFP, many fans consider the season a failure.
The transfer rules and NIL just make it feel like NFL-lite football without the quality of play the NFL affords.
idk probably comes off as sour grapes but CFB as it was in 2007 was a superior product to this.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:32 am to ChiGator
I don't understand (well I guess I do, $$$) why small schools keep wanting to jump up to Div 1.
If it were up to me, I'd rather regional schools like La Tech, ULL, Southern Miss, McNeese, etc. play each other and compete in the IAA playoffs.
I'd rather a National Championship than the honor of winning 10 games and playing in some shitty bowl that no one cares about.
If it were up to me, I'd rather regional schools like La Tech, ULL, Southern Miss, McNeese, etc. play each other and compete in the IAA playoffs.
I'd rather a National Championship than the honor of winning 10 games and playing in some shitty bowl that no one cares about.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:34 am to ghost2most
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I don't understand (well I guess I do, $$$) why small schools keep wanting to jump up to Div 1.
If it were up to me, I'd rather regional schools like La Tech, ULL, Southern Miss, McNeese, etc. play each other and compete in the IAA playoffs.
I'd rather a National Championship than the honor of winning 10 games and playing in some shitty bowl that no one cares about.
I completely agree with this. It's also why I think the inevitable break of the SEC/Big 10 from the rest of the NCAA Div 1 field may serve the sport well.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:37 am to DVinBR
You really want to know how Kirby and Saban and to a lesser degree Dabo started bringing in an outsized amount of 5* talent ( and from around the country) For starters it is location. The area from Tuscaloosa to just north of Atlanta down I 95 into Central Florida is football central. It's where the D linemen are, the LBs and a lot of rbs come from. If you pay attention, GA and Bama win because of insane defenses and that is the world dominated by big strong black kids from country schools mostly.
Louisiana has talent but not like that. Louisiana has a lot of skill talent and speed. The monsters of the DLines come out of that eastern part of the SE. Als o competition is limited for their services. It is Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia and Florida/FSU.... although the Florida talent has been diluted with Miami and recently with the emergence of UCF and to a much lesser extent USF.
Still don't understand why Texas and TAMU struggle the way that they do. Baylor and TCU don't pull away the talent appreciably .
As an observer though, I would want to pay closer attention to the Central and Western PA and Ohio areas in the future. They've always produced very good players and overall good teams. OSU took Georgia to the wire and Joe Pa's teams were always solid when they played in big games back in the day.
A dark horse from a competitive aspect is Pitt and to a lesser extent Cincinnati....but Pitt definitely due to location between OSU and PSU.
Louisiana has talent but not like that. Louisiana has a lot of skill talent and speed. The monsters of the DLines come out of that eastern part of the SE. Als o competition is limited for their services. It is Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia and Florida/FSU.... although the Florida talent has been diluted with Miami and recently with the emergence of UCF and to a much lesser extent USF.
Still don't understand why Texas and TAMU struggle the way that they do. Baylor and TCU don't pull away the talent appreciably .
As an observer though, I would want to pay closer attention to the Central and Western PA and Ohio areas in the future. They've always produced very good players and overall good teams. OSU took Georgia to the wire and Joe Pa's teams were always solid when they played in big games back in the day.
A dark horse from a competitive aspect is Pitt and to a lesser extent Cincinnati....but Pitt definitely due to location between OSU and PSU.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:38 am to ChiGator
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The same handful of schools just continually dominate, eat up every top recruit, rinse & repeat. Expanded playoff won’t do shite either. Look at the current recruiting classes lol. The rich are just getting richer.
it aint broken. Did you watch any other bowl games this year? A few teams- like Florida and Purdue- were blowouts. But most were pretty close and very entertaining. You sound jealous and butt hurt. Sorry Florida has become irrelevant. Getting your arse handed to you in your bowl game didn't help. Play better.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:59 am to Dr Rosenrosen
College football has never had parity.
What’s different now is that up until about 10 years ago making a major bowl game was considered a great year, and making a decent bowl was considered a good year. It wasn’t all about winning the Natty. Conference titles meant more as well.
What’s different now is that up until about 10 years ago making a major bowl game was considered a great year, and making a decent bowl was considered a good year. It wasn’t all about winning the Natty. Conference titles meant more as well.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 2:22 pm to Ross
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It's also why I think the inevitable break of the SEC/Big 10 from the rest of the NCAA Div 1 field may serve the sport well.
Until casuals view the SEC/Big Ten as "real" college football and everything else inferior (as FCS is viewed right now).
Posted on 1/10/23 at 2:24 pm to ghost2most
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I'd rather a National Championship than the honor of winning 10 games and playing in some shitty bowl that no one cares about.
Georgia Southern has six national titles in FCS and yet few care.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 2:26 pm to Bham Bammer
Or Bama Clemson or GA Clemson it's basically the same target audience. Even LSU vs Clemson trade one 2.5 million for another 2.5 million slightly south
Posted on 1/10/23 at 2:35 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
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The lack of parity is ridiculous. Hopefully, the expanded playoff will help.
The expanded will help those top programs that happen to slip up in the regular season (for example 2022 Bama) still get into the 12 team playoff. So again, just like with the portal, the rich will in fact get richer
Also there has never been a ton of parity from year to year in college football so this is nothing new.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 2:41 pm to etm512
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 5:06 pm to KiwiHead
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As an observer though, I would want to pay closer attention to the Central and Western PA and Ohio areas in the future.
I live in PA and grew up in GA, the die hard fandom for PA college football teams (PITT, PSU) is nowhere near what UGA has in Georgia. PA also isn't close to the talent level that Georgia is as a state. HS football here is not on the same level as Georgia HS.
Ohio is different tho, that state worships OSU very similar to how GA loves UGA.
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:26 am to BreakawayZou83
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It has always been this way. If you want attempts at parity, watch the NFL.
Or the FCS
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:33 am to DVinBR
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Just as TCU gave me a sliver of hope for parity in the sport they get obliterated.
Tell me about. Tough to watch.
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