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re: Is Chris Bosh a future HOF?
Posted on 5/27/11 at 1:54 pm to CajunFootball
Posted on 5/27/11 at 1:54 pm to CajunFootball
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Is Chris Bosh a future HOF?
Considering to this point his career arc mirrors Shareef Abdur-Rahim, he is going to have to do a Hell of a lot more to garner serious consideration.
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 3:57 pm to brg0320
quote:
Is Chris Bosh a future HOF?
I think he has the makings of a HOF career. Obviously way too early, but if he keeps it up for or another 7 or so yrs then I say he gets in.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 3:59 pm to Lester Earl
Not sure if you just messing with this guy or what but Dirk is already of HOF'r in most people's minds.
I would be surprised if he isn't a 1st ballot guy.
I would be surprised if he isn't a 1st ballot guy.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:08 pm to STEVED00
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I think he has the makings of a HOF career. Obviously way too early, but if he keeps it up for or another 7 or so yrs then I say he gets in.
This. Assuming the Heat win a few championships and he plays like he did this year and especially in the playoffs. 19-9 over 6-7 years and multiple titles = HoF.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:22 pm to brg0320
not a chance, right now I bet Miami thinks they overpaid for him
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:36 pm to 756
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not a chance, right now I bet Miami thinks they overpaid for him
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:55 pm to ZTiger87
obviously not yet, but he can have a HOF carrer ahead of him. especially if he collects a few rings
Posted on 5/27/11 at 5:00 pm to brg0320
quote:l o fricking l
Is Chris Bosh a future HOF?
Posted on 5/27/11 at 5:03 pm to WDE24
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l o fricking l
Do you feel that way about James Worthy?
or, do you just freely admit that you're biased against Bosh?
Posted on 5/27/11 at 5:05 pm to shel311
quote:I'm not biased against Bosh. I have absolutely nothing against him. He is a nice player.
or, do you just freely admit that you're biased against Bosh?
He is not close, nor will he likely ever be close to a hall of fame caliber player. Anyone that has watched basketball on a semi-regular bases for more than 5 years knows this.
This post was edited on 5/27/11 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 5/27/11 at 5:08 pm to WDE24
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He is not close, nor will he likely ever be close to a hall of fame caliber player. Anyone that has watched basketball on a semi-regular bases for more than 5 years knows this.
James Worthy is a top 50 player of all time. Bosh has performed just as good as James Worthy basically.
Rather than pulling the lame "anyone who has watched nonsense", what sort of actual reasons do you have to say Worthy is top 50 but a guy who produces more overall isn't even HOF worth, assuming he wins a couple of rings????
Posted on 5/27/11 at 5:10 pm to brgfather129
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Considering to this point his career arc mirrors Shareef Abdur-Rahim, he is going to have to do a Hell of a lot more to garner serious consideration.
not really a bad thing, as Abur-Rahim was an All star caliber player
Bosh would have to start sucking next year to make that a good comparison
Rahim fizzled out at 27.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 5:15 pm to shel311
quote:You understand that stats can be skewed and actually watching someone is very valuable in an evaluation, right?
Rather than pulling the lame "anyone who has watched nonsense"
quote:Did I say that?
what sort of actual reasons do you have to say Worthy is top 50
ETA: Also, I believe Worthy never padded his stats as a good player on a shite team. Didn't he win a finals MVP one time too? Also, wasn't he on a team where the load was spread around (magic, kareem, cooper, scott, etc.), thus reducing his personal stats?
This post was edited on 5/27/11 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 5/27/11 at 5:16 pm to WDE24
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You understand that stats can be skewed and actually watching someone is very valuable in an evaluation, right?
Ok, so again, what are your thoughs on Chris Bosh, compared with James Worthy?
No one denies that Worthy was a legit HOFer, no one that I know of.
I don't see how one can think Worthy was THAT much better than Bosh.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 5:18 pm to shel311
quote:Anyone that has watched the two play, can, and likely will say that.
I don't see how one can think Worthy was THAT much better than Bosh.
Why the strange and unreasonable need to assert that Bosh is something he clearly isn't?
ETA: Is Zach Randolph a HOF? Elton Brand? Amare Stoudemire? What if they joined the Heat or Lakers and won a couple of titles?
This post was edited on 5/27/11 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 5/27/11 at 5:23 pm to WDE24
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Anyone that has watched the two play, can, and likely will say that.
So, you have no reason, got it.
You realize Bosh averaged 19 and 9 this year as a 3rd option right? But that counts for nothing I guess.
What makes Bosh performing and producing MORE than Worthy not as good? What are those reasons that you and other basketball guys know of?
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Why the strange and unreasonable need to assert that Bosh is something he clearly isn't?
Why the strange and unreasonable need to assert Bosh isn't something that he has the potential to be without even trying to give one single logical reason for it?
This post was edited on 5/27/11 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 5/27/11 at 5:25 pm to brg0320
quote:
Read my reasoning for the question six or 7 posts up
Okay, I read it, and I agree with you.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 5:26 pm to shel311
quote:Yeah, he isn't HOF worthy, unless the HOF is Hall of pretty good third options.
So, you have no reason, got it.
Is Zach Randolph a HOF? Elton Brand? Amare Stoudemire (more of HOF than Bosh BTW)? What if they joined the Heat or Lakers and won a couple of titles?
I assume you are a Heat fan?
This post was edited on 5/27/11 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 5/27/11 at 5:27 pm to brg0320
No.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 5:30 pm to WDE24
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Yeah, he isn't HOF worthy, unless the HOF is Hall of pretty good third options.
Is there any particular reason why you won't explain the differences between Bosh and Worthy that you and all these NBA guys can easily see?
I just wonder why you keep dodging that question, as it is a pretty legit question.
You can't argue Bosh's production/efficiency, it's there. I just wanna know why it doesn't mean as much as a someone like a James Worthy, cause I think that is a solid comparison.
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I assume you are a Heat fan?
I'm a fan of logic and reason and backing up opinions with facts or numbers based on production. I'm not a fan of just saying something is so just because you said so and no other reason.
This post was edited on 5/27/11 at 5:31 pm
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