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re: Is Cam Newton the Most Overated Player in the League Right Now?

Posted on 11/6/15 at 8:24 am to
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 8:24 am to
The Panthers have one of the worst WR corps ever +
below average OL + below average RBs

Outside of Kalil and Olsen, Cam doesn't have a single offensive teammate that would even make the practice squad of any other playoff team
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 8:54 am to
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This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 8:38 pm
Posted by A$AP Cocky
:^)
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Washed up Cotchery is their #1


no

quote:

Journeymen like Philly Brown make up the rest


Philly Brown is in his second year, both with Carolina

Posted by A$AP Cocky
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:05 am to
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False. It's a statistical driven award just like the Heisman.


but when Cam was putting up ridiculous numbers his first couple of seasons, people kept saying it didn't matter because the wins weren't following


make up your mind
Posted by GeauxingAfterYou
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2015
93 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:12 am to
11 touchdowns and 8 interceptions






That is pathetic
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:14 am to
The Panthers are a great team, but he has never had an MVP worthy season even in his best years of "ridiculous" stats.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Cam doesn't have a single offensive teammate that would even make the practice squad of any other playoff team


Well thats completely false but I get the hyperbole you are going for.
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
Middle of the fairway
Member since Aug 2011
16892 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 11:49 am to
Not sure if you really are a Falcons fan or not. If you are, however, please kindly STFU!

Your QB couldn't beat Jameis Winston with a top 5 RB and the number one WR in the game.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38477 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:21 pm to
A nice addition to the discussion (from the SB Nation 49ers site):

Colin Kaepernick and Cam Newton aren't remotely the same player (LINK)

quote:

While watching his tape over the past couple days, I couldn’t help but think how Newton is now the player Kaepernick was supposed to become. A true dual-threat quarterback capable of playing at a high level from the pocket and making something out of nothing with his preternatural athleticism when the play appeared to be exhausted. A quarterback capable of lifting the players around him above their talent levels and making his team competitive just by stepping on the field. This is what we thought we were getting from Kaepernick when he set the league on fire during the 2012 Playoffs.

Now, those days feel like lifetime ago. After watching him stagnate over the past two seasons, I don’t know if Kaepernick will ever get to the level of play we’re currently seeing from Newton, at least in San Francisco. But the one thing I do know is that anyone who thinks Kaepernick and Newton "are basically the same player" isn’t paying attention.

Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 12:44 pm to
Their best receiving threat is Olsen. He's playing great, but he's 30 and he has battled his fair share of injuries.

Philly Brown looks good, but they need an explosive receiving threat. Benjamin isn't explosive. He's big and you just pray he doesn't drop the ball.

Stewart is 28 but he has been in the league a while and although he doesn't really have a lot of miles, he does get injured and he's not going to be an every down kind of back.

Carolina needs to give Cam a first round talent at WR if they want that offense to get off the ground.
Posted by Drank
Member since Jun 1864
Member since Dec 2012
11570 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:18 pm to
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CocoLoco


Holy shite. Where did Cam touch you?
I have never, in my life, seen someone obsessed with a single player on a message board the way you are with Cam.
Takes dedication.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31459 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 1:41 pm to
So Cam fans, was Wilson MVP the last 2 years?
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38477 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:12 pm to
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So Cam fans, was Wilson MVP the last 2 years?


Nope. But he *was* given serious consideration across the board of the NFL media and nobody seriously disagreed with them.

And, just to say it again since you obviously don't comprehend your reading very well, *no* Auburn and/or Cam fan in this thread has said that Cam SHOULD be MVP. We have only stated that Cam getting MVP *consideration* is totally fair and valid.
Posted by Drank
Member since Jun 1864
Member since Dec 2012
11570 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:12 pm to
He arguably was the year before last
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:15 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 8:38 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 3:08 pm to
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With the way Brady is playing, no one else should be in consideration. It's a one man race at this point. I'm kind of surprised that people are even debating it.
People tried to debate that Tom Brady was MVP material in 2013 when Peyton Manning had the most prolific passing season of all-time...and their numbers weren't even close.
Posted by Drank
Member since Jun 1864
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:16 pm to
Edit. Double post
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 6:17 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
214003 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:30 pm to
Cam is impressing me thus far this year. I say he is the mvp thus far. He doesn't have as much to work with as Brady and the coach like Brady has.beat the packers this week and he has to be the number 1 contender IMO.
Posted by Drank
Member since Jun 1864
Member since Dec 2012
11570 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:33 pm to
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I say he is the mvp thus far.


Whelp there went that. Sorry Cam.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
214003 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:48 pm to
Go away. The crap is getting old and anyone that keeps brining it up is childish and stupid. Grow up.
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