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re: Is Andy Reid a Top 10 all-time HC?

Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
3662 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:29 pm to
Yes. Mahomes wouldn't even be ome of the top 5 QB's in the league without him.
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
19959 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:34 pm to
I think so. Some coaches benefit from getting into a lucky situation with a franchise. He's had 2 franchises at the top. Was an assistant on a bunch of really good packer teams also from the 90s
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
8031 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:44 pm to
Duh
Posted by Underteaux
Member since Feb 2024
839 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:57 pm to
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But it's hard to compare modern coaches to the old school guys, who had to cook from scratch and build the game and league into what it became.
Not to mention a completely different talent pool.

Old schools guys would have no idea what to do with modern athletes
Posted by jlag01
Member since Oct 2018
50 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:59 pm to
Biased...
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112479 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:00 pm to
Yes
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29116 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:05 pm to
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Old schools guys would have no idea what to do with modern athletes


I mean, they also wouldn’t know what to do with an iPhone or digital recordings

A guy like Halas was running the entire operation and had to worry about making payroll in the early days.

You can’t really compare the modern era with pre-SB era. Hell, you can’t even compare lifestyles of the average person from those eras. It’s vastly different.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30942 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:10 pm to
Yes. Top 5. Super Bowl appearances with two teams. Multiple SB wins.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17491 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:15 pm to
How is this a question?
Posted by Underteaux
Member since Feb 2024
839 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:15 pm to
We’re in agreement. As time continues to drag on, all time lists will continue to become less and less legit. Just completely different sports
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
28271 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:22 pm to
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Chuck Knoll, Bill Belichick, Don Shula, Bill Walsh, Vince Lombardi, George Halas, Tom Landry?

Bill Parcells
Jimmy Johnson
Posted by imAMAZING
Member since Sep 2008
6314 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:27 pm to
Why did Reid get fired by the eagles again
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12680 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:34 pm to
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3 SBs, success with 2 franchises.


This right here.

Not only does he have 3 SB wins, he’s the winningest coach in the history of 2 different franchises.

And it’s not like those franchises are the Titans and the Texans.

And he has 130+ wins for both.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26451 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:57 pm to
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Why did Reid get fired by the eagles again


Jim Johnson died and he could no longer win 10+ games with the likes of Kevin Kolb after doing so with journeyman QBs and going to SBs with Donovan McNabb for 15 yrs.

Go look when he has an elite DC like Johnson or Spagnuolo. He will almost always make the deep playoff runs.

The 2000s saw the best OC of the last 30 yrs (Reid) and the best DC of fhe last 30+ yrs (Belichick) as HCs. It's not a mystery that they both won a shite load of SBs and dominated league with top-level QBs.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216133 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 9:58 pm to
Joe Gibbs.
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
1892 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:09 pm to
Yes. Number 1.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:14 pm to
He's top 4 for me.

1. Paul Brown
2. Vince Lombardi
3. Bill Belichick
4. Andy Reid

Might be blasphemy but I think what Reid's done over 25 seasons in the salary cap era is a lot more impressive than the coaches who dominated over a short period of time with big market teams in the pre-salary cap era (Walsh, Gibbs, Parcells, etc...).
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15171 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:47 am to
Duh
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465858 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:57 am to
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the best OC of the last 30 yrs (Reid)


Reid was never an OC. I mean never, not just in the NFL.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32433 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:13 am to
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Reid was never an OC. I mean never, not just in the NFL.


Isn't he basically a de facto OC though (if not in title)?
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