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re: Is a lockout actually what college sports needs?

Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:47 pm to
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If you want to offer a five-star recruit, if the recruit accepts, that's a 5 point deduction from the total available points. A four-star recruit is 4 points.



Who decides how many stars a recruit is?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66696 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:49 pm to
Getting payed through what we were told NIL was I agree. Just getting paid isn’t the same thing.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9603 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:47 pm to
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They didn’t give it up, they were stripped of it by the courts due to them wanting to eat their cake and have it too.


Not exactly. NCAA allowed NIL after a Supreme Court ruling about NCAA limits on education benefits in scholarships for athletes with NIL only mentioned in a concurring opinion by one justice but not the binding decision. Some say the writing was on the wall, but technically it had not been written yet on NIL that summer of 2021. NCAA had opportunity after the concurring opinion was played up as forcing NIL that summer to try to bring some structure to it at the start. Likely some challenges to implementation and rules, but the school year was not far away from starting. Instead it immediately waived the white flag.

With the cases about limits on transfers the past couple of years when a judge put out a temporary injunction the NCAA kept waving the white flag, refusing to appeal injunctions, and with initial case on limits to transfers officially changed the transfer rules to match the temp injunction. May have done the same on others.

They are not really fighting anything. It almost looks like they are good with everything but want to keep appearances of this being forced onto them by judges and make some judicial activist case law on the subject. That wouldn’t be surprising with university presidents and ADs wanting to redistribute wealth to poorer blacks, so they do little to truly fight the decisions including the revenue sharing case.


Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9603 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:48 pm to
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The US Supreme Court


What decision?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9603 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:06 pm to
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I’m all for players getting paid but who decided to just make it a free for all with unlimited NIL & transfers??


The NCAA with support of its member University Presidents by not truly fighting anything in court including temporary injunctions about the transfer rules and not attempting to implement any structure to what was NIL in name only when they had more time to do so.

They did a rush job like the Supremes forced them when the case only ruled on limits to education benefits for scholarship athletes with one non-binding nod to NIL in a concurring opinion.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11445 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:31 pm to
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I’m all for players getting paid but who decided to just make it a free for all with unlimited NIL & transfers??


NIL was the court system. And honestly, that is not the problem. The portal is the root of all evil. And the NCAA still has 100% control over its rules and operation and enforcement. For the life of me, I can not understand why its member schools are allowing it to exist in its current form.

If you eliminate the portal, NIL becomes lot less of a burden as its a one time payment and de facto multi year contract to players (unless they want to sit and lose a year of eligibility). Most importantly, it becomes much easier to budget and kids take the high school recruiting process more seriously as they (and their handlers) know its their one chance to get it right.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
12487 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:58 pm to
What if the top 5 players are all from a state and dream of playing for the local school….. should they not be allowed? Or if more players feel its the right fit for them to get to the NFL, NBA, MLB… who’s going to tell them they “can’t “ go to a school?
Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
1247 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 5:01 am to
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What if the top 5 players are all from a state and dream of playing for the local school


What if the top 20 NFL stars all dreamed of playing for one team and the owner of said team could afford $50 million salaries for all 20? That'd be super fun to watch, right?

Of course all of this would have to be governed by some kind of CBA, which would be fun to watch play out. There are plenty of kids playing CFB that aren't making 6-7 figures so you'd think they would have the numbers to get something done.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27611 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:54 am to
Would you just not give out athletic scholarships for a year?

Would this "lockout" apply to all sports? No NCAA swimming or track & field events?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53790 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:26 am to
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Would you just not give out athletic scholarships for a year?


You give them out but don’t have any actual games
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12646 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:37 am to
Not needed. There are plenty of guys that would love to play for just a scholarship.
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