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Is a Big 12/Pac 12 merger the next major move in conference realignment?
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:07 pm
This seems pretty obvious right?It already almost happened in 2010 and this seems like the most logical move once shite hits the fan again
I don't know if we will see more than 16 teams in a conference so it will be interesting to see what the conference would look like
I don't know if we will see more than 16 teams in a conference so it will be interesting to see what the conference would look like
This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 12:33 pm
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:10 pm to WestCoastAg
Why don't all the P5 merge together, ditch the NCAA, and pay the players?
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:14 pm to chalmetteowl
Would be cool with that
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:15 pm to chalmetteowl
that could work and just do regions instead of conferences
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:18 pm to chalmetteowl
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Why don't all the P5 merge together, ditch the NCAA, and pay the players?
Looks like certain agents are following your model, but in reverse order.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:19 pm to chalmetteowl
Big Ten will block this by inviting Kansas and Oklahoma. More money for them. Better travel for all sports. Games played at reasonable Eastern and Central times means more exposure. That's a real thing because people often forget about the PAC because the games are so late.
SEC may also be a player in this and could get Oklahoma and another one as well. I just get the feeling the SEC is fine with where they are at.
The rest of the 12 could peel off and go but at that point is it worth the PACs time. As far as Texas goes, they could pull off being a football independent with an ACC membership ala Notre Dame.
The Big 12 and PAC merging seems simple and logical but you have to realize that the schools will be looking at what is best for them first. The conferences also can't just add schools to add schools, there needs to be value with each add otherwise you get into a diminishing returns situation.
SEC may also be a player in this and could get Oklahoma and another one as well. I just get the feeling the SEC is fine with where they are at.
The rest of the 12 could peel off and go but at that point is it worth the PACs time. As far as Texas goes, they could pull off being a football independent with an ACC membership ala Notre Dame.
The Big 12 and PAC merging seems simple and logical but you have to realize that the schools will be looking at what is best for them first. The conferences also can't just add schools to add schools, there needs to be value with each add otherwise you get into a diminishing returns situation.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:22 pm to WestCoastAg
Logistics would be hard. The bigoted Cal and Stanford administrations have consistently and openly stated that they will veto any religiously affiliated school.
That leaves West Virginia (too far away), Kansas (doormat in football), K State (will revert to historic suckage without Snyder), Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, and Texas Tech.
Texas plays the "what's mine is mine, what's yours is ours" game with the Longhorn Network, and the PAC-12 won't and shouldn't put up with that nonsense.
The two Oklahoma schools are a good addition, but the sand aggies aren't worth taking without their big brother.
That leaves West Virginia (too far away), Kansas (doormat in football), K State (will revert to historic suckage without Snyder), Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, and Texas Tech.
Texas plays the "what's mine is mine, what's yours is ours" game with the Longhorn Network, and the PAC-12 won't and shouldn't put up with that nonsense.
The two Oklahoma schools are a good addition, but the sand aggies aren't worth taking without their big brother.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:27 pm to SoDakHawk
quote:right now. not when the new conference would have the populations of california and texas locked down including the markets of LA, SF, houston, and dallas
Big Ten will block this by inviting Kansas and Oklahoma. More money for them
quote:they do this when the teams arent good. USC has never had a problem with this and by having programs located in central time zones, you will have more games in central time zones which will allow more games at reasonable times
Games played at reasonable Eastern and Central times means more exposure. That's a real thing because people often forget about the PAC because the games are so late.
quote:and i think a pac 12 big 12 merger provides this
but you have to realize that the schools will be looking at what is best for them first.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:31 pm to WestCoastAg
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comference
Sir?
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:33 pm to SoDakHawk
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Big Ten will block this by inviting Kansas and Oklahoma.
OU is tied to Okie st
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:35 pm to WestCoastAg
How many of teams to you think Pac-12 would be willing to take? Texas & OU are given, but how long are their coattails?
Two additional schools would put them at 16, which two make the cut?
Two additional schools would put them at 16, which two make the cut?
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:36 pm to TigerintheNO
okie state and then one of the three little brother schools from texas. probably tech
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:37 pm to TigerintheNO
pac12 was ready to take OU and Tejas, but both are tied to deadbeats(okie st and taco tech).
A McDonalds university degree(one they give fry cooks), has more value than a diploma from either of those 2.
Had OU or Tejas been able to shed them, both would already be in Pac12.
A McDonalds university degree(one they give fry cooks), has more value than a diploma from either of those 2.
Had OU or Tejas been able to shed them, both would already be in Pac12.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:39 pm to SeeeeK
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pac12 was ready to take OU and Tejas, but both are tied to deadbeats(okie st and taco tech).
Okie state wins 10 games a year in football
Texas tech is a joke though.
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McDonalds university degree(one they give fry cooks), has more value than a diploma from either of those 2.
My wife and several people at my company graduated okie state. It's a good school.
This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:41 pm to SeeeeK
quote:so was texas- texas a&m
OU is tied to Okie st
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:45 pm to the crue
Texas and A&M were never tied to one another like OU and okie state
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:49 pm to the crue
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so was texas- texas a&m
Uh, no
Texas Tech and Tejas are tied together.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:58 pm to WestCoastAg
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but you have to realize that the schools will be looking at what is best for them first.
and i think a pac 12 big 12 merger provides this
As an OU fan, OU is in a great position to win the conference most years and make the Playoff. I want no part of changing conferences.
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:59 pm to Ostrich
but i think texas wants out and if texas leaves, then what benefit does staying in the big 12 give OU?
Posted on 2/24/18 at 1:01 pm to WestCoastAg
If Texas got their shite together, they'd be right there with OU dominating the conference. I don't see why they'd want out
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