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re: In your opinio, who is the most overrated NFL QB ever?
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:22 pm to BulldogXero
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:22 pm to BulldogXero
quote:38 TD, 8 INT, 4200+ yards while throwing to #3/4 receiver all season and no running back.... OVER RATED
I rather enjoyed watching his less than stellar performances this year.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:23 pm to GonePecan
John Elway or Joe Namath - probably Elway because most fans understand Namath wasn't an all time great
People still rave about Elway more because he was a physical freak than he was ever the best QB in the game (There was no year in his career when he was better than Montana, Young, and Favre)
People still rave about Elway more because he was a physical freak than he was ever the best QB in the game (There was no year in his career when he was better than Montana, Young, and Favre)
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:23 pm to Keys Open Doors
Wow, I'm actually shocked at the number of people in this thread who think the best way to gauge a pitcher's ability is by looking at his wins total.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:23 pm to Kafka
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he played 19 years without getting injured and piled up stats
:Farve:
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:24 pm to USMC Gators
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maybe because he has jack and shite as a supporting cast?
I disagree that Rodgers is one of the most overrated, but. . . As far as his supporting cast is concerned, he has the best corps of WRs in the game. Defense, on the other hand. . .
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:24 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Montana is the most overrated if you think he's the greatest QB ever and site "ringz" as the reason.
I guess it depends on what you're measuring. Most of these players probably say their ultimate goal is winning the Super Bowl. By that standard, Montana is the best.
If we're measuring based on who on average is best at the mechanics of being a Quarterback, Peyton Manning perhaps, maybe Dan Marino. But both are/were mediocre at winning given their talents.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:25 pm to tduecen
Can I throw out Doug Flutie?
I mean he got a lot of hype when he was with Buffalo but it may have been because of his height and what everyone remember he did in college, but still....
I mean he got a lot of hype when he was with Buffalo but it may have been because of his height and what everyone remember he did in college, but still....
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:25 pm to Patrick_Bateman
And one of the worst set of running backs of any team in playoff history, probably.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:26 pm to maine82
"Montana was part of a system. Marino was the system." - Bill Walsh
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:26 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Wow, I'm actually shocked at the number of people in this thread who think the best way to gauge a pitcher's ability is by looking at his wins total.
Pitcher is way different than QB. QB is a team leader and does a lot more than just throw the ball; e.g., reads defenses, audibles, goes through progressions. . . hell, the list goes on and on. Not a good comparison at all.
A QB has a lot more influence over his team's W/L record than a pitcher.
This post was edited on 1/14/13 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:27 pm to tduecen
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Can I throw out Doug Flutie?
I mean he got a lot of hype when he was with Buffalo but it may have been because of his height and what everyone remember he did in college, but still...
Flutie was a great story and a good QB - I've never run into a fan who puts him up there with all time great QBs
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:27 pm to Keys Open Doors
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I'm actually shocked at the number of people in this thread who think the best way to gauge a pitcher's ability is by looking at his wins total.
I'm not. You give the people here too much credit
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:28 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Wow, I'm actually shocked at the number of people in this thread who think the best way to gauge a pitcher's ability is by looking at his wins total.
Baseball is a bad comparison. A starting pitcher plays about one every four games. He has no control over the other starting pitchers, he has no control over his teammates' abilities to score runs, limited control over their abilities to field the ball.
With quarterbacks, they're running half of the team (not counting special teams) every game. They have more control and thus you can hold them more accountable regarding the win column.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:28 pm to molsusports
quote:I haven't either, but according to OP Title we are just talking over rated QB's in reference to hype (at least how I took it) or does it have to be someone in HoF or on way to possible HoF?
I've never run into a fan who puts him up there with all time great QBs
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:28 pm to tduecen
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#3/4 receiver
I say again, the Packers WRs are the best in the game.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:29 pm to tduecen
I dunno - it sounds like you're more annoyed by how much somebody likes Flutie than you are by how over-rated he was
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:29 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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I say again, the Packers WRs are the best in the game.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:29 pm to tduecen
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Can I throw out Doug Flutie?
No
He doesn't belong on any QB list, unless it's for drop kicks
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:29 pm to H-Town Tiger
Vinny Testaverde's career totals and his place on the all time list:
Total Offense: 44902 (6)
Passing yards 46233 (7)
Passes completed: 3787 (7)
TD passes: 275 (10)
Total Offense: 44902 (6)
Passing yards 46233 (7)
Passes completed: 3787 (7)
TD passes: 275 (10)
Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:30 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:As a whole, not when their #1/2 miss practically whole season... I would take Atlanta's Julio/Roddy over any other combo
the Packers WRs are the best in the game.
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