re: I'm not gunna lie, i miss him

I would not even put Vince Young as the best college QB of the decade. I would go with Dorsey, and playing QB is more than athletic ability and best college QB does not mean a great NFL QB. But as for all time best college QB that I have seen with my own eyes...it is either Steve Young, Tommy Fraizer, or Jamelle Holloway (pre knee injury)

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The most decorated player in Florida's football history, Wuerffel won the 1996 Heisman Trophy while quarterbacking the Gators to the consensus national championship. He led the Florida Gators to four consecutive Southeastern Conference titles between 1993 and 1996, and the 1996 National Championship, won in decisive fashion (52-20) over archrival Florida State University at the 1997 Nokia Sugar Bowl in New Orleans, Louisiana.

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Wuerffel First-team All-America selection in 1995 and 1996 and two-time recipient of the Davey O'Brien Award as the nation's top college quarterback both of those seasons. Also awarded the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award award as the nation's top senior quarterback. In 1995 he also was awarded the Sammy Baugh Trophy, emblematic of the nation's top collegiate passer.

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He finished his Gator career by completing 708 of 1,170 passes for 10,875 yards with 114 TD passes, the best in SEC history and second-most in major college history. His career pass efficiency rating of 163.56 was the best in major college history and his percentage of passes which went for a TD (9.74) ranked first in collegiate history. In 1995, his efficiency rating of 178.4 set a single-season collegiate record. During his Heisman-winning season of 1996, he completed 207 of 360 passes for 3,625 yards (an SEC record at the time) for 39 TDs (leading the nation and tops in SEC history) and his efficiency rating of 170.6 made him the first QB to ever post a rating of 170 or better in back-to-back years.

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As far as quaterback play is concerned, it's pretty hard to top these accomplishments.

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Carson Palmer way over Dorsey as well.

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I think the 2 National Champ games trump the Heisman...but I would understand why you say it doesnt.

I also think that SC had more offensive weapons during Leinhardts time than Dorsey did at Miami.

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He led the Florida Gators to four consecutive Southeastern Conference titles between 1993 and 1996

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the SEC of the mid 90's wasn't exactly the SEC of today, but that is still ridiculous.

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the SEC of the mid 90's wasn't exactly the SEC of today, but that is still ridiculous.

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Alabama was no joke during that time frame. Auburn had its undefeated season. Tennessee was building to where it ended up, Manning was there 2 of those years. SEC was very strong during this period, just not the juggernaut it is right now.

Did the Gators win 4 straight SECCG? Or was it reg season Titles?

As I know Danny didnt start all 4 years, as Palmer, Kresser, and I want to say Terry Dean also played a lot in that time period.

soph TT > soph VY

but i have a hard time believing TT can top VY's junior season.

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I wouldnt even call him the top "running" QB i have ever seen.

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well in terms of running, he was a 1,000 yard rusher

and when you combine the fact that he threw for 3,000 yards while doing that, there is no equal

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I dont think he transformed Texas. Maybe "defined" or "put them over the top"

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dude vince young literally transformed their entire psyche, which did put them over the top

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well in terms of running, he was a 1,000 yard rusher

and when you combine the fact that he threw for 3,000 yards while doing that, there is no equal

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There were still QB's that were just as productive in other facets, as well as good leaders. It may not have equated to 1K/3K, but that doesnt mean they werent on that level.

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dude vince young literally transformed their entire psyche, which did put them over the top

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and in order to transform them, wouldnt they have to sustain similar success after he leaves?


right now they are the same team that they were before they won the title.


How has the psyche changed when they immediately reverted back to the team they were?

They are a 3-4 loss team that cant even manage a NYD bowl game or have more than 1 or 2 good, solid wins in a season.

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if they weren't on the level, then why didn't they come close to the stats?

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I never said they didnt come close.


but say a guy like Charlie Ward who threw for 3K yards, but only rushed for like 600, but he threw 26 or 27 TDs with only 4 INTS?


Or a guy like Mike Vick that CARRIED a team on his shoulders like he did the year VT played FSU in the Sugar Bowl.

HE didnt have the numbers Young had, but he was easily the most dynamic player in college football that year, and maybe in the last 10 years.


Or a guy like Tommie Frazier that ran the option a lot more than Young, but still threw 18 TD's his SR year(6INTS) and ran for another 800 with 16 more TD's?

He was pretty fricking good himself.



there is no way Young is head and shoulders, if better at all then those 3 guys.

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i didn't mean forever. while he was there

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Yeah, I know. I dont think "transformed" is the right word at all.


Many players over the years have carried a team for a single season or 2(many a lot less talented than Texas). It doesnt mean they transformed the program.

To me, to transform something means it would have to be sustained. Like actually rub off on the other players even after he left