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re: If USCw and LSU or Bama get to title will the south prevail??
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:01 pm to TxTiger82
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:01 pm to TxTiger82
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27 against LSU (with window dressing against the second team)
LSU gave up 27. Not 27*, not 27 (but the last TD didn't count). 27. I doubt you went back and looked up how many "garage time" TDs SC gave up so you can't do it for that game either.
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27 against LSU (with window dressing against the second team)
19 against Auburn
8 against Boise State
17 against Ohio State
None of those games you mentioned was played at Oregon.
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:02 pm to Zamoro10
quote:Thanks for your generosity
If Bama or LSU are like they were last year - I'd take them anyday over this USC team...right now...all things up in the air.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:03 pm to TxTiger82
Oops, double post.
This post was edited on 8/16/12 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:04 pm to ToesOnTheNose213
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LSU gave up 27. Not 27*,
Compare that to the Oregon game, where the Ducks scored 15 4th quarter points and almost came from behind to win, missing a 37-yard game-tying FG.
LSU had Oregon pinned to the mat, and let them up to get the newbs some PT.
Big difference. It is as if you didn't watch both games. Strange.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:07 pm to TxTiger82
Do you consistently watch Oregon?
That's their gameplan. Oregon is never pinned to the mat...the goal is to tire you out and score late and often. Oregon is one of the few teams where it's totally misleading and cheap to call anything garbage points. This isn't Kentucky.
LSU won convincingly but Oregon moved the ball. USC giving up 35 to Oregon at night in Autzen is not a garbage defensive effort. That's just a troll effort period.
That's their gameplan. Oregon is never pinned to the mat...the goal is to tire you out and score late and often. Oregon is one of the few teams where it's totally misleading and cheap to call anything garbage points. This isn't Kentucky.
LSU won convincingly but Oregon moved the ball. USC giving up 35 to Oregon at night in Autzen is not a garbage defensive effort. That's just a troll effort period.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:13 pm to TxTiger82
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Compare that to the Oregon game, where the Ducks scored 15 4th quarter points and almost came from behind to win, missing a 37-yard game-tying FG.
I watched both games. I'm not saying USC was better than LSU last year. Not in the slightest. But it is funny when you say "elite defenses don't give up 35 points to Oregon" when your elite defense gave up 27 (qualifiers and all).
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:15 pm to Zamoro10
quote:i wouldnt call it gerrymandering, but the way the schedules worked out, UGA missed the 3 best teams in the west, and SCAR missed LSU/bama. it just happens. but the way the division champions play in the SECCG, the problem "fixed" itself, it just took the extra game
There were five 10-win teams in the SEC last year.
That shouldn't be possible in any truly tough conference.
Unless schedules are sort of gerrymandered so as to protect the overall brand.
quote:with a backup QB, LSU physically dominated the ducks in their worst beating of the chip kelly era. but de'anthony thomas was a true frosh
stomp the crap out of?
I guess I saw a different game. (Paging DucksFlyinPac)
i dont see anyone taking his catches off the board, just his mistakes. guess that happens when you rely on true freshman, huh? despite the final score being a 13 point difference, the game was not as close as the score indicated. 
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:18 pm to FightOn4ever
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the West will prevail. USC is better at the offensive skill positions.
how far can your almighty QB throw on his back??
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The young ones on the D line will be seasoned at that point.
assuming that they have ZERO injuries, which is always a gamble (i wish no harm on the players)
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The O led by three All-Americans will pick the secondary apart
again, this means nothing if your QB can't get rid of the ball or is constantly throwing off his back foot
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:20 pm to Zamoro10
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Oregon would have beaten every team in the SEC last year except for LSU/Bama
Always debateable is but what's not debateable is the year before in the title game, Oregon was averaging over 45 points per game and then ran into a relatively average SEC defense and came up lame.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:35 pm to Zamoro10
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That's their gameplan. Oregon is never pinned to the mat...the goal is to tire you out and score late and often. Oregon is one of the few teams where it's totally misleading and cheap to call anything garbage points.
We had our second string in at the end of the game. I doubt Oregon planned on making a huge comeback on our second team D.
You were pretty level headed in this thread up until now.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:42 pm to Rocket
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Always debateable is but what's not debateable is the year before in the title game, Oregon was averaging over 45 points per game and then ran into a relatively average SEC defense and came up lame.
That "average" defense was #1 against the run in the SEC. Oregon runs the ball....twas a good matchup for Auburn. Oregon had their chances. By no means was that game ever in the bag for the barners.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:44 pm to LNCHBOX
It was 30-13 to start the 4th quarter. USC was up 38-20 to start the 4th quarter.
If you had your second string in that's your problem. You don't understand Oregon...they don't think they're ever out of it. This isn't some slogging/time wasting old SEC team where if you go up by 14 points you think the game is over. They're entire system is built on scoring a bunch of points in the 4th quarter because of what they've done in the previous 3 quarters to tire you out. Read Chip Kelly's philosophy.
If you don't think that's level headed then, sorry, you don't understand how Oregon plays. The game is never over for them by design. But you are looking at that game from an SEC perspective of previous SEC matchups and scores.
Regardless, and back to the original point. USC giving up 35 to Oregon at home is no shame...period. To say otherwise is not level-headed.
If you had your second string in that's your problem. You don't understand Oregon...they don't think they're ever out of it. This isn't some slogging/time wasting old SEC team where if you go up by 14 points you think the game is over. They're entire system is built on scoring a bunch of points in the 4th quarter because of what they've done in the previous 3 quarters to tire you out. Read Chip Kelly's philosophy.
If you don't think that's level headed then, sorry, you don't understand how Oregon plays. The game is never over for them by design. But you are looking at that game from an SEC perspective of previous SEC matchups and scores.
Regardless, and back to the original point. USC giving up 35 to Oregon at home is no shame...period. To say otherwise is not level-headed.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:46 pm to LNCHBOX
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. I doubt Oregon planned on making a huge comeback on our second team D.
Sorry bub but Oregon doesn't stop regardless of what the score is. Some teams may quit but they aren't one of them.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:47 pm to LSUintheNW
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That "average" defense was #1 against the run in the SEC. Oregon runs the ball....twas a good matchup for Auburn. Oregon had their chances. By no means was that game ever in the bag for the barners.
I know that but that's not the point. All that scoring was cut in half when they bowed up to a defense that had a pulse. That's why nobody should ever be all that impressed with a team in the Big 12 or Pac 12 racking up big points. So the assertion that Oregon would be just about every SEC team other than Bama and LSU last year doesn't really fly with folks who know better.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:48 pm to Zamoro10
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You don't understand Oregon...they don't think they're ever out of it.
They could think it all they want, doesn't change the fact there was nothing their offense could do to change the outcome of the game. There were never close to us in the 4th.
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If you don't think that's level headed then, sorry, you don't understand how Oregon plays.
I get it, and that works on PAC style defenses. As you know, LSU and Bama don't have those kinds of defenses, so it's foolish to act like Orgeon had some grand plan to catch us in the 4th.
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Regardless, and back to the original point. USC giving up 35 to Oregon at home is no shame...period. To say otherwise is not level-headed.
No argument here.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:49 pm to Zamoro10
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LSU won convincingly but Oregon moved the ball. USC giving up 35 to Oregon at night in Autzen is not a garbage defensive effort. That's just a troll effort period.
Your plan?
It was against our backups..
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:50 pm to LSUintheNW
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Sorry bub but Oregon doesn't stop regardless of what the score is. Some teams may quit but they aren't one of them
When did I say they quit? I was saying I don't think their game plan included an opportunity against our 2nd team D.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:50 pm to hendersonshands
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USC over both. Better quarterback and skill positions plus they have the best head coach of the three teams: LFK,b
You have got to be trolling.
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LA-Lafayette Fan
yep, you sure are
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:51 pm to Zamoro10
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If you had your second string in that's your problem. You don't understand Oregon...they don't think they're ever out of it. This isn't some slogging/time wasting old SEC team where if you go up by 14 points you think the game is over. They're entire system is built on scoring a bunch of points in the 4th quarter because of what they've done in the previous 3 quarters to tire you out. Read Chip Kelly's philosophy.
There is no coach in the world who's strategy is to give up such a big insurmountable lead, their opponent puts in the their second string for so long they lose. This isn't soccer. You can put your starters back in.
Their strategy is to wear you out yes. But there is a difference between being tired, and pulling your starters in a blowout.
The point being LSU would score enough on USC's defense. Your offense hasn't seen anything similar to an decent Defense, much less one of the most elite defenses in the country.
This post was edited on 8/16/12 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:52 pm to LNCHBOX
My bad. 
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