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re: If Lebron wins a 4th NBA MVP this year,
Posted on 2/22/13 at 6:54 pm to FootballNostradamus
Posted on 2/22/13 at 6:54 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Then when he torched em in the playoffs, and it was so evident who the best player was they looked like idiots.
Well to be fair, it's a regular season award, not a playoff award.
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 8:05 pm to MrBiriwa
quote:Not at all.
would you consider the MVP voters to be lazy? 4 in 5 yrs?
quote:THAT is the lazy voter, MJ should have won wayyyy more.
but Jordan won his 4th in his 9th yr.
quote:Pretty much. Him or Durant, but it's locked up barring injury or something completely unexpected.
Is it already a given for Lebron?
Posted on 2/22/13 at 8:08 pm to genro
quote:The best player would provide the most to his team's success, almost by definition. Thus, the best player is the most valuable because well...he provides the most value.
Neither. It's the most valuable player. The player that means the most to their team's success
Posted on 2/22/13 at 8:10 pm to Powerman
quote:Wilt's 100 was worse.
anyone remember that year when David Robinson put up 70 points in a game in the most obvious rigged game of all time
Watching the documentary on it on NBATV, Wilt and basically everyone was admitting they were fouling the other team every trip down the court in the 4th quarter so his team could get the ball back quicker.
Posted on 2/22/13 at 8:13 pm to Jcorye1
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Welcome to the argument that will forever follow "MVP". Does it mean the best player in the league or the guy that was most valuable to his team
How I like to choose MVP is easy. If there was a game that my life depended on the outcome, who would I choose first.
IMHO, all 3 of those criteria should give the same result lol.
Whoever you think is the absolute best player in the league is the guy you would also choose if your life depended on it, and he is also the guy who provides more value or contributes more to his team's success than any other player.
Posted on 2/22/13 at 8:18 pm to MrBiriwa
No. Actually the MVP voters in previous years should be criticized for not giving the MVP to the best player in the league more often. Jordan should have gotten more than five MVPs. Today's MVP voters are actually getting it right by giving it to the best player in the league every year.
Posted on 2/22/13 at 9:10 pm to genro
quote:
Neither. It's the most valuable player. The player that means the most to their team's success
Then Lebron proved he won the MVP the year he left the Cavs...
Posted on 2/22/13 at 10:35 pm to Powerman
quote:
Off topic: anyone remember that year when David Robinson put up 70 points in a game in the most obvious rigged game of all time so that he could get the MVP?
The Spurs fed Robinson the ball in the final game of a season to score 71 so he could win the scoring title, not MVP.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 1:38 am to eyeran
quote:
Should be his 5th in a row...
Nah, he was not even the best player in Florida that season.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 1:52 am to MrBiriwa
I am of the opinion he should not have won last year. It's the most VALUABLE not the most outstanding player award. You take Lebron off the team and they still win 50 games. Take Carmello off the Knicks and they are bottom feeders (I don't think he's MVP just an example). Even if he wins 4 that doesn't mean he is the greatest. Payton has won 4 MVPS in the regular season but chokes in the playoffs which makes him behind Montana and Brady.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 2:01 am to JabarkusRussell
Lebron is leading the league for the 6th year in a row in the wins above replacement stat.....soooo.... yea
And PER
And PER
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 2:02 am
Posted on 2/23/13 at 2:19 am to DollaChoppa
I don't pay any merit to PER just as I don't pay attention to those crappy baseball stats that would have had the Angels Rookie winning MVP over a Triple Crown winner.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 2:36 am to MrBiriwa
BTW, Shaq was robbed when Nash won over him.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 3:58 am to MrBiriwa
Since the one game he scored fewer than 20 points this season (18 games):
29.4 ppg
7.8 rpg
7.2 apg
2.1 spg
0.7 bpg
3.0 topg
.700 TS% (62 FG%, 43 3P%, 80 FT%)
The impact on the team is clear as they're 15-3 in that stretch.
He's on another level right now and if he keeps this up for the remainder of the season no one else should even be considered for MVP.
29.4 ppg
7.8 rpg
7.2 apg
2.1 spg
0.7 bpg
3.0 topg
.700 TS% (62 FG%, 43 3P%, 80 FT%)
The impact on the team is clear as they're 15-3 in that stretch.
He's on another level right now and if he keeps this up for the remainder of the season no one else should even be considered for MVP.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 4:29 am to imraged
The most recent bogus MVP went to Kobe Bryant in 2007-2008. Chris Paul deserved that one.
Lebron obviously deserves this year's. It's really not even close. Any other option is just playing devil's advocate with no apparent evidence.
Lebron obviously deserves this year's. It's really not even close. Any other option is just playing devil's advocate with no apparent evidence.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 8:37 am to JabarkusRussell
quote:One in the same. The best player provides the most value added to his team.
It's the most VALUABLE not the most outstanding player award
quote:Sure, for some.
Even if he wins 4 that doesn't mean he is the greatest. Payton has won 4 MVPS in the regular season but chokes in the playoffs which makes him behind Montana and Brady.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 8:38 am to JabarkusRussell
quote:Oh man, what a great post.
I don't pay any merit to PER just as I don't pay attention to those crappy baseball stats that would have had the Angels Rookie winning MVP over a Triple Crown winner
Posted on 2/23/13 at 8:39 am to shel311
Posted on 2/23/13 at 8:53 am to elposter
quote:
Lebron is just owning the NBA right now and he deserves the MVP - again.
yep
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:35 am to BuckeyeFan87
quote:
As MJ said, only a couple players would have been stars back then, one being LBJ.
4 in 5 seasons speaks to what MJ said, less competition.
MJ's statement was borderline retarded and i'm laughing that somebody actually used it in a discussion
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