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re: If LeBron was on the lakers....

Posted on 5/19/10 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/19/10 at 12:57 pm to
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so basically what you're saying is even if lebron puts on a dwyane wade finals magical performance but he doesn't have enough help around him to win a championship it's all his fault?



the help excuse is played out, that team had the best record 2 years in a row
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 12:58 pm to
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Let me ask you this, Is Scottie Pippen a better pro than Kobe?

Surely you think he is. If not, you're not being consistent at all.



um no Pippen is not better than Kobe, Pippen getting to play with the best ever has everything to do with his rings
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112846 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 12:59 pm to
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here we go down this old beaten path of a lame excuse


Explain to me how it's a pathetic excuse???

Honestly, explain how playing with a top 2 or 3 talented team for all those titles while NO ONE will argue the same for Lebron is a pathetic excuse.

Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36710 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 12:59 pm to
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the help excuse is played out, that team had the best record 2 years in a row

playing in the east should certainly diminish that accomplishment correct? according to people in this thread earlier, the cavs team that made it to the finals would have lost to any western conference team in the playoffs
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112846 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 12:59 pm to
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the help excuse is played out, that team had the best record 2 years in a row


Against the Celtics, after Lebron, who was the next 4 best players in that series??

Honest question.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74762 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 12:59 pm to
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StraightCashHomey21


they don't get it.


and neither does lebron.


he doesn't have the killer instict like all the greats with multiple titles had.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112846 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:00 pm to
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um no Pippen is not better than Kobe, Pippen getting to play with the best ever has everything to do with his rings



Ahhhhh, so YOU get to use the teammates excuse for Kobe, but it is lame and played out to use it for Lebron.

That is EXACTLY what you're saying.

I'm not trying to be an arse, but that statement you just made definitively proves you're just blindly hating.
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36710 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:00 pm to
i don't even know why i'm in this stupid argument. i hate the lakers and don't even like the cavs
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74762 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:01 pm to
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Honestly, explain how playing with a top 2 or 3 talented team for all those titles while NO ONE will argue the same for Lebron is a pathetic excuse.


so what you're saying is, that if you don't have the one of the most talented teams in the league that year, you can't win a championship?

Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36710 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:02 pm to
answer me this question

do you think lebron could have won titles if he would have gotten to play with the shaq that kobe did?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112846 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:02 pm to
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so what you're saying is, that if you don't have the one of the most talented teams in the league that year, you can't win a championship?


Has Kobe ever won a title without having a top 2 talented team? Yes or no.

Does Lebron have a team as talented as Kobe this year?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:06 pm to
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Ahhhhh, so YOU get to use the teammates excuse for Kobe, but it is lame and played out to use it for Lebron.

That is EXACTLY what you're saying.

I'm not trying to be an arse, but that statement you just made definitively proves you're just blindly hating.



ive said repeatedly that Lebron won't win it all until he gets a legit sidekick.

But looking at both rosters from the years Kobe had no help and the Cavs teams the past 2 years, then throw in the level of competition each faced every night and then in the playoffs def points to Lebron having the better team and facing worse competition
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74762 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:07 pm to
fellas stop it with the hypatheticals(sp)....you can dream all day of what you could have and come away with nothing....or you can work with what you do have and make something of it.

lebron hasn't.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:07 pm to
I can't wait until the Celtics skull frick the Lakers again. What leg will these fanboys have to stand on then?
This post was edited on 5/19/10 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36710 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:07 pm to
finally a rational post

that is completely different than everything else you've been saying
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36710 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:08 pm to
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fellas stop it with the hypatheticals(sp)....you can dream all day of what you could have and come away with nothing....or you can work with what you do have and make something of it.

lebron hasn't.
fricking terrible
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:08 pm to
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playing in the east should certainly diminish that accomplishment correct? according to people in this thread earlier, the cavs team that made it to the finals would have lost to any western conference team in the playoffs


of course the east isn't as good, but Lebron fans all year had been pounding their chest about how great this team is and how the missing pieces are filled and this team will win it all, but when they choke now the team is straight shite.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

hypatheticals(sp)....


Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74762 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:09 pm to
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I can't wait until the Celtics skul frick the Lakers again. What leg will these fanboys have to stand on then?


that lebron still doesn't have a ring.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112846 posts
Posted on 5/19/10 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

fellas stop it with the hypatheticals(sp)....you can dream all day of what you could have and come away with nothing....or you can work with what you do have and make something of it.

lebron hasn't.


I'll ask AGAIN, name me top 5 players on the court in the Boston series.

Then name me one player that could have overcome that.

I'll hang up and listen.
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