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re: If Joe Brady becomes the Falcons HC, is Mac Jones his first draft pick?
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:50 am to TideSaint
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:50 am to TideSaint
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He's had several scrambles for crucial first down conversions all season.
He has how many runs over 5 yards? 2?
But Answer the question.
Can he do what Joe Burrow did all last season?
I am Sure it will show up on some highlight somewhere
So where is it?
His highlight real is a DeVonta Smith highlight real.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 10:52 am
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:51 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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They want Brady for ONE reason - the Brady/Burrow offense
You know this because you’ve spoken with Arthur Blank
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If the GM doesn't let Brady pick the QB for that offense, the GM is a fricking idiot
You know they have a former MVP QB who is under contract for 3 more years and would absolutely destroy their salary cap if they cut him loose this year or next. Plus they have 2 super star WR and a pretty good 3. Maybe just maybe they want a coach like Brady to work with the offense they have?
They also lost 3-4 games with a complete defensive collapse at the end seems more likely they go defense at 4 but hey like I said as a Saints fan I would be giddy if they took Mac Jones at 4
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:54 am to TideSaint
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So 13 Power Five teams. Hmmm.
SOOO Much more difficult than 12 adding 4-6 Kentucky
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:55 am to SammyTiger
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Can he do what Joe Burrow did all last season?
He's done it better.
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I am Sure it will show up on some highlight somewhere
So where is it?
I bet you watched every single minute of LSU's 2019 season. Probably more than once.
Now, on a 5 minute Burrow highlight reel did they show every 12 yard pass or a scramble for 5 yards for a 1st down?
Hell no.
It's called a highlight reel, not an every play reel.
I've watched every minute of every Alabama game this season. He's made a ton of plays that won't be featured in a highlight reel.
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His highlight real is a DeVonta Smith highlight real.
Cool.
Let's ignore Burrow's accomplishments from last year too because he was throwing to three 1st round WRs and dumping the ball off to a 1st round RB.
Right?
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:57 am to H-Town Tiger
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SOOO Much more difficult than 12 adding 4-6 Kentucky
5-6 Kentucky with a bowl win over a ranked ACC team.
Imagine what the Kentucky's and Missouri's of the conference records would be if they had the luxury of beating up on Northwestern State?
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:58 am to TideSaint
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Imagine what the Kentucky's and Missouri's of the conference records would be if they had the luxury of beating up on Northwestern State?
6-6 maybe 7-5
brutal opponents FYI 2002 USC played 13 BCS/P5 teams in 13 games
ETA 2018 Clemson and 2016 Clemson played 13 as well
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:58 am to Buckeye Jeaux
This would be amazing! How this plays out - Atl drafts a QB. Release Matt Ryan - Brees retires. Saints sign Matt Ryan -win the Superbowl. Atl fans cry and we laugh
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:59 am to TideSaint
1. I am Specifically talking about his mobility and evasiveness
He doesn’t do that better than Joe.
2. When you slip a lot of tackles it’s impressive
It shows up in highlights.
Where are those moments for Jones?
3. If Joe there’s 55% of his TDS to 1 guy I would Say maybe it’s that guy. Rather Joe threw 10+ TDS to 3 different WRs.
I have no idea what Jones is outside Smith.
Joe Butrow threw 40 TDS if you take away his best WR.
I wont Even get into the defenses they’ve played.
He doesn’t do that better than Joe.
2. When you slip a lot of tackles it’s impressive
It shows up in highlights.
Where are those moments for Jones?
3. If Joe there’s 55% of his TDS to 1 guy I would Say maybe it’s that guy. Rather Joe threw 10+ TDS to 3 different WRs.
I have no idea what Jones is outside Smith.
Joe Butrow threw 40 TDS if you take away his best WR.
I wont Even get into the defenses they’ve played.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 11:02 am
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:05 am to SammyTiger
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I have no idea what Jones is outside Smith.
Sure you do. Watch the highlights from the first 4 games of the season when Waddle was healthy.
He was 90 of 115 for 1,518 yards and 12 touchdowns.
Smith had 38 of those receptions and 4 touchdowns.
His opponents were Missouri, Texas A&M, Georgia and Ole Miss.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 11:18 am
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:22 am to TideSaint
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I guess we'll just ignore what he's done on the field then.
You are letting your Bama bias overtake the realistic view here.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:26 am to SammyTiger
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He can get the ball out fast. Great.
You got THAT part right.
Jones doesn't need to be an escape artist. The ball is long gone when rush gets anywhere near him.
Jones sack % is 3.09 - Burrow's was 6.26
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:26 am to TideSaint
And... Posting 9 page long quotes about their make believe rankings doesn't prove anything. If you think Jones is similar or better than Burrow, you're a dummy.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:27 am to SteelerBravesDawg
Realistic view?
He torched your "elite" secondary to the tune of 24 of 32 for 417 yards and 4 touchdowns.
Actually, this explains a lot about your position here.
Asshurt.
He torched your "elite" secondary to the tune of 24 of 32 for 417 yards and 4 touchdowns.
Actually, this explains a lot about your position here.
Asshurt.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:28 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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You got THAT part right.
Jones doesn't need to be an escape artist. The ball is long gone when rush gets anywhere near him.
Jones sack % is 3.09 - Burrow's was 6.26
fricking oof.
But, but, but you need to be realistic!!!
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:32 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Please STFU.....
Posted on 1/10/21 at 11:58 am to TideSaint
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Now, don't you look like a dumbass?
I’m not quite sure why you’re calling me a dumbass. My opinion still stands that I don’t think he has the talent to be a successful starting quarterback in the NFL. You’ve replied multiple times in this thread citing the same PFF article. I’m just stating that subjectively I think he will struggle when he is not playing with superior talent at every skill position.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 11:59 am
Posted on 1/10/21 at 12:32 pm to TypoKnig
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My opinion still stands that I don’t think he has the talent to be a successful starting quarterback in the NFL.
In a traditional *pro-style offense, probably not. In Brady's offense - he's a perfect fit.
*and conversely, there are few pro-style QBs who could run Brady's offense at an elite level.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 1:21 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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In a traditional *pro-style offense, probably not. In Brady's offense - he's a perfect fit.
*and conversely, there are few pro-style QBs who could run Brady's offense at an elite level.
There are few QB in the NGl who can run any offense at an elite level.
That’s why they make 10 of millions.
But seriously what does Mac Jones do that you think makes him special?
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:45 pm to RLDSC FAN
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The Falcons will likely have a shot to draft Justin Fields.
Be the dumbest choice they can make, so I hope they go that route.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:44 pm to SammyTiger
quote:I seriously doubt that, Sammy.
There are few QB in the NGl who can run any offense at an elite level.
They can maybe run it, but not at an elite level.
The elites were brought up from grade school in very similar offenses.
As to guys like Burrow, Jones, and probably Max Johnson; they do the lions share of their work in the film room. They are getting their jump on the D's before the ball is snapped. They typically love film study. A lot of old school QBs don't like it at all.
As soon as the ball is snapped they see the new shapes of the D, and where the weak zones are. If their WRs are in synch with them, there are always open throwing areas.
The throws aren't difficult, the reads are difficult. And they must be read quickly and thrown quickly on most throws.
Bottom line, Jones has put thousands of hours into analyzing defenses in relation to that offense. Probably since he was in elementary school. He is elite in that offense, just as Burrow was when he arrived at LSU.
The smartest move O made was bringing in Brady to install the offense Joe knew inside and out. And Brady, as an NFL OC or HC needs a QB who is already saturated with the knowledge of that offense.
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