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I would like to see a 2nd level sec team run a true air raid offense

Posted on 11/11/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted by iamAG
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 12:05 pm
I’m not sure it would work but it would be interesting to see. The top 6 or 7 teams in the sec are obvious most years and are the same teams. Get a team like Arkansas or a&m and see what happens. Recruit defense and quarterback.
Posted by SamuelClemens
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 12:08 pm to
Kentucky ran it for several years
Posted by S
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 12:09 pm to
Do you even Hal Mumme bro?
Posted by iamAG
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 12:12 pm to
I was just 7 years old back then(had to actually google when he was at Kentucky). So I’m guessing it didn’t work very well.
Posted by Lou
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 12:13 pm to
Bobby Petrino threw the ball at Arkansas, worked for them.
Posted by 632627
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 12:45 pm to
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I was just 7 years old back then(had to actually google when he was at Kentucky). So I’m guessing it didn’t work very well.


Ehhh, it kind of worked. Prior to Mumme, Kentucky was one of the worst p5 programs. At the very least, mumme’s offense attracted recruits as they landed Tim couch.

Kentucky was never very good, but I do think they started scoring points and were better than they were under bill curry.
This post was edited on 11/11/17 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Undertow
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 1:05 pm to
Haven’t ole miss and auburn tried that in recent years to moderate success?
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 1:12 pm to
A&M didn’t run an air raid but they did throw the ball a lot with Manziel. I’m surprised more SEC teams don’t go the A&M/Auburn route.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 2:08 pm to
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So I’m guessing it didn’t work very well.


It got QB Tim Couch drafted #1 overall by the Browns in 1999.
Posted by WildcatMike
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 2:12 pm to
Hal fricking Mumme
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 2:13 pm to
Wasn't Kliff there for at least one of those years? He is definitely an air raid guy.
This post was edited on 11/11/17 at 2:13 pm
Posted by WildcatMike
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 2:13 pm to
Baw, Couch played for Curry and ran the option.
Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 2:40 pm to
Because the SEC is typically a pound the ball offense and really good defenses. It seems like any team that has that air raid offense has horrible defenses. For example A&M and the Big 12
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 2:46 pm to
Closest successful stint was Arkansas with Petrino, but his offense is at its peak when its balanced. 2010 with Knile Davis was the best Arkansas team since joining the SEC.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 2:54 pm to
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At the very least, mumme’s offense attracted recruits as they landed Tim couch.


More like it made Tim Couch.

High percentage passes dink and dunk...dude put up ridiculous completion % stats against SEC defenses which made him look way more attractive to Scouts than he was in reality.

So, would it work? No shite it would work, it already did...and produced a #1 pick from freakin' Kentucky.

In fact, Fun' N' Gun, air Raid, etc...is like Kyrptonite to the SEC.

They prefer defending traditional high school Les Miles football compared to innovation or being spread out.
Posted by Peepdip
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 3:00 pm to
When the hell has Auburn ever run an air raid.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Couch played for Curry and ran the option


Sarcasm is awesome
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 3:02 pm to
Kevin Sumlin and Kliff Kingsbury are Air Raid disciples so their offense for a few years had many Air Raid principles incorporated.

Auburn tried to install an Air Raid-like system with the Tony Franklin experiment.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 3:02 pm to
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No shite it would work, it already did

I think defining "work" is key here.

Results wise, what "worked" for Kentucky is about to get Sumlin fired and got multiple Arkansas coaches fired.

That said... my pipe dream is still Mike Leach with a good, recruiting D-coordinator in Fayetteville.
Posted by 632627
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 3:20 pm to
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More like it made Tim Couch.



I think couch was one of the best regarded/rated high school qb of all time.

I was wrong though that mumme ball brought couch to Kentucky. Curry recruited him but was fired during couch’s first season.
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