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re: I have a solution to this inevitably growing bowl game sit out business

Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by young man tiger
Opelousas, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2009
1596 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:56 pm to
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OK. PLEASE tell me that this is just the greatest troll of all time.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:17 am to
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Name 1 sit out that's been successful In the NFL after 3 years.


It hasn’t been three years yet, this started 2 years ago with CMC and Fournette
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49053 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 6:24 am to
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Name 1 sit out that's been successful In the NFL after 3 years.


It’s hasn’t been three years since this trend has started but McCaffery, Fournette, and Derwin James have all had really good starts to their careers thus far.

Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
17055 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 6:47 am to
The op must have been listening to XM yesterday because some person from the CFP brought that exact idea up. Dumb idea on many levels.
Posted by young man tiger
Opelousas, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2009
1596 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:34 am to
It’s not dumb. It’s unconventional, and I personally wouldn’t care for it. But it functions the same way in terms of the money it brings in and the exposure it brings to the schools. Also it absolutely solves the two issues at hand: 1) it makes it so no one sits out of them and 2) it makes the bowl games have much more meaning with regard to their impact on a given season. The romantacism of playing the games at a different time may be debatably altered or diminished, but the mechanics of what it does to solve the two above mentioned issues cannot be debated.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36592 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:46 am to
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But it functions the same way in terms of the money it brings in and the exposure it brings to the schools.


You don't know that and I don't think the second part is true. That would mean the Idaho Potato Bowl would have to compete with the Fiesta Bowl on the same day and probbably other games in the same time slot, which means less viewers for those teams than when it's the only game on in December.

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it makes the bowl games have much more meaning with regard to their impact on a given season


Which is kind of dumb, and kills the momentum of a lot of these games.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 9:48 am
Posted by young man tiger
Opelousas, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2009
1596 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:17 am to
Having LSU open up with Notre Dame this year in the Citrus Bowl would have absolutely had major appeal coming off of months waiting for football season to start. The major bowls would have to be spread out at different days and times over two weeks so as not to coincide with one another. Maybe Thursday, Friday and Saturday starting two weeks out from September at staggered times.

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Which is kind of dumb, and kills the momentum of a lot of these games.


This statement makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It would have the same impact on the polls and the direction of the season the same as any season opener. Just like the Miami win at the open of this season immediately propelled LSU in the rankings. Just pretend like that was a “bowl” matchup and it’s the same concept.
Posted by TGHub
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
2261 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:48 am to
Bowl games mean even less now with the early signing period. Most recruits are signed before the bowl game is ever played.

I think everyone has already mentioned all of the reasons why playing a bowl game at the beginning of the next season is a bad idea. Unless the players who sit out of bowl games start getting drafted lower, there’s nothing else that will prevent future players from sitting out.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:49 am to
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Name 1 sit out that's been successful In the NFL after 3 years.



What a terrible argument. We are in year two of McCaffery and Fournette, and both have been successful.
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
92879 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:09 am to
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It’s not dumb. It’s unconventional, and I personally wouldn’t care for it. But it functions the same way in terms of the money it brings in and the exposure it brings to the schools. Also it absolutely solves the two issues at hand: 1) it makes it so no one sits out of them and 2) it makes the bowl games have much more meaning with regard to their impact on a given season. The romantacism of playing the games at a different time may be debatably altered or diminished, but the mechanics of what it does to solve the two above mentioned issues cannot be debated.


It is dumb. And here's why - what you have failed to realize here, and I would suspect of more importance for players and coaches, is the extra practice time all of these teams get leading up to the bowl games, which they would not get in your scenario.

Also, besides what I imagine are a relatively small group of people, nobody really cares about the two solutions you're trying to solve for. Of course the media is going to push this agenda, because outside of the actual playoff games, there's nothing else for them to talk about right now...so let's create drama.

While I, personally, would love to see guys like Greedy play one more game - the fact is, it's his decision to play/not play. So, if he wants to sit, then so be it...but I would have to assume that it would not be the same decision if LSU was in the Final Four.

To the point of the games not meaning anything, well, it's been that case forever. Except for a few games over the the life of bowl games, MOST bowl games had no real significant meaning - and it was a "reward" for a good season...and gave the fans the opportunity to travel somewhere fun over the Holidays.

Most of the teams that have a chance to compete for the title essentially already play a bowl game at the start of the season now, anyway, so...

Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:50 am to
How in the world is this thread still going? This is quite possibly the worst suggested change to CFB I’ve ever seen.
Posted by young man tiger
Opelousas, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2009
1596 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:46 pm to
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what you have failed to realize here, and I would suspect of more importance for players and coaches, is the extra practice time all of these teams get leading up to the bowl games, which they would not get in your scenario.


This is the first valid point I’ve seen made against it, and you’re right.

But at the same time, didn’t you just kind of make a point as to the value of Bowl games in the current format? From the coaches’ very own points of view, the extra practice time is of GREAT significance to the team. Wouldn’t that alone make the Bowl games worth their salt?
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
92879 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:32 pm to
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But at the same time, didn’t you just kind of make a point as to the value of Bowl games in the current format? From the coaches’ very own points of view, the extra practice time is of GREAT significance to the team. Wouldn’t that alone make the Bowl games worth their salt?



Yes, which is why we're all saying that your original point was absurd.

That said, thank you for this:

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This is the first valid point I’ve seen made against it, and you’re right.


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