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re: I have a solution to this inevitably growing bowl game sit out business
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:28 pm to young man tiger
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:28 pm to young man tiger
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So the cash made in Dec/Jan is worth more than the same cash made in August/September?
Sui generis, the bowl season for college football, if it aint broke don't fix it, tradition, the schools hold all the leverage in what they elect to do, just being realistic bro, accept realism and you'll have a better life
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:29 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You're setting the match-up the year before, it's pretty simple
Yeah...that’s what happens when you schedule games. Do you thing we scheduled this years opener against Miami a week or two prior to the game?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:31 pm to young man tiger
Players that sit out bowl games are traitors. You can talk about the draft, but they wouldn’t have the draft status if they weren’t given the opportunity to play on the team. It’s a character flaw at best.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:33 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Sui generis, the bowl season for college football, if it aint broke don't fix it, tradition, the schools hold all the leverage in what they elect to do, just being realistic bro, accept realism and you'll have a better life
A four team playoff was unrealistic just a few short years ago.
Personally, I like the bowls games the way they’ve always been. I just see trouble down the road with this growing mentality of the games being meaningless exhibitions, which by definition they are not.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:34 pm to STLDawg
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Players that sit out bowl games are traitors. You can talk about the draft, but they wouldn’t have the draft status if they weren’t given the opportunity to play on the team. It’s a character flaw at best.
The guys making the decisions don't think so, but some retard on the internet does so I'm sure the 21 year old kids in line to make at least a few million dollars will change their behavior
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:35 pm to young man tiger
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games being meaningless exhibitions, which by definition they are not.
That's precisely what they are. They mean absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. They exist to make everyone money except the kids playing in them
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:37 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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That's precisely what they are. They mean absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. They exist to make everyone money except the kids playing in them
They are, BY DEFINITION, not exhibition games, and therefore not meaningless. We play one exhibition game every year in March. That’s the Spring game. NFL teams play four exhibitions a year.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:38 pm to young man tiger
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A four team playoff was unrealistic just a few short years ago.
To be fair though, as far as I could recall there were high-profile arguments for a playoff dating back like 15 years ago, I preferred the BCS system because it was all about detached computers and 1 vs 2 for the natty, I don't necessarily see that for what you're proposing now in any respect so...
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:38 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
The guys making the decisions also keep murderers and wife beaters in the league. We should all defer to their judgment of character.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:39 pm to young man tiger
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They are, BY DEFINITION, not exhibition games, and therefore not meaningless
You're arguing meaningless semantics. They have no meaning to the current or next season.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:40 pm to STLDawg
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The guys making the decisions also keep murderers and wife beaters in the league. We should all defer to their judgment of character.
Yeah man, beating your girlfriend and sitting out a meaningless game to avoid risking an injury are the same exact thing
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:43 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
A+ in logic homie.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:44 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You're arguing meaningless semantics. They have no meaning to the current or next season.
That’s not true. Semantics aside, they are a part of historical record just like every other non-conference game that counts in the win/loss column. They generate money the same as any other regular season game, but more. They affect rankings which influences team/school perception and can also influence pre-season rankings for the following year, which can serve to boost a team’s positional ranking towards the end of that season.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:52 pm to young man tiger
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they are a part of historical record just like every other non-conference game that counts in the win/loss column. They generate money the same as any other regular season game, but more. They affect rankings which influences team/school perception and can also influence pre-season rankings for the following year, which can serve to boost a team’s positional ranking towards the end of that season.
None of that has anything to do with someone cashing an $8 million check 4 months from the game. And people are going to watch anyway. Ratings haven't been down, and more players have sat out this year than any before.
People that aren't stupid realize this is life changing money and there is no reward for 1st round talent in this situation, only risk.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:58 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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None of that has anything to do with someone cashing an $8 million check 4 months from the game.
What did the aTm, Rice, and Arkansas games have to do with someone cashing an $8 million check 4+ months from those games?
Would you say the Fiesta Bowl is of equal, or of less importance than those games? If less, why? And if equal, then wouldn’t it also be equally worth playing?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:01 pm to young man tiger
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What did the aTm, Rice, and Arkansas games have to do with someone cashing an $8 million check 4+ months from those games?
Nothing, but they were games to qualify to play for a championship and for some players to put film out there.
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Would you say the Fiesta Bowl is of equal, or of less importance than those games?
Less, you have nothing to play for but a meaningless trophy and for the guys sitting out, your draft spot is secured.
It's a simple risk/reward calculation. The risk far outweighs the reward.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:10 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Nothing, but they were games to qualify to play for a championship and for some players to put film out there.
WRONG. From the Arkansas game on, LSU was out of conference championship contention and basically out of any realistic hope of a playoff birth. So why not sit out these games addition to the bowl? You don’t think players had enough film or exposure for scouts up to that point?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:12 pm to young man tiger
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From the Arkansas game on, LSU was out of conference championship contention and basically out of any realistic hope of a playoff birth. So why not sit out these games addition to the bowl?
I wouldn't have been upset had they chosen to do that.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:16 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I wouldn't have been upset had they chosen to do that.
Wow.
Well, I’m sure potential NFL suitors would have had a problem with it. If I’m the team’s head office, I’m wondering whether or not I want to draft a player that might sit out most or all of his final rookie contract year to not risk injury going into free agency.
A Devin White on the other hand, I’m wanting to build my franchise around that guy.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:29 pm to young man tiger
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Well, I’m sure potential NFL suitors would have had a problem with it.
Nick Bosa could be the number 1 overall pick in this draft, and Ed Oliver could go right behind him.
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I’m the team’s head office, I’m wondering whether or not I want to draft a player that might sit out most or all of his final rookie contract year to not risk injury going into free agency.
That's why you aren't head office guy. And if you can't see the difference between sitting out in college and the NFL, you're just an idiot. Moreaso, leveon Bell just did exactly that, and he's going to get paid by someone this off season.
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