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re: I genuinely have no idea how that was incomplete even by the retarded rule
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:43 pm to fillmoregandt
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:43 pm to fillmoregandt
He had scored already
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:44 pm to the paradigm
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He clearly had possession. Once the ball crosses the plane it should be a TD and the play should be over.
Which has been the case for every other touchdown...
God I'm pissed.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:47 pm to Wolfhound45
From NFL twitter
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:47 pm to boXerrumble
It’s been hours since the game ended and I’m still steaming man. 
Losing fair and square is one thing. Losing because of an absolute highway robbery is another, especially when it cost the Steelers the 1 seed and additional week of rest for their studs.
Losing fair and square is one thing. Losing because of an absolute highway robbery is another, especially when it cost the Steelers the 1 seed and additional week of rest for their studs.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:48 pm to MikeD
That proves absolutely nothing.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:49 pm to KillerNut9
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This post was edited on 3/7/21 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:51 pm to dnm3305
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The ball was secured at the one yard line. He extended it over the front plane of the goal line while it was secured, thus a "football move". The play is over as soon as it crosses the front plane. That was a TD and it was obvious. Its the EXACT same principle as a QB quick snapping the ball and lunging fwd with it over the goal line. Once it crosses the plane, the play is over and it wouldnt matter if the middle linebacker would swat the ball our of the QB's hands. How is this play any different. Its a stupid fricking rule, and even with that being said, they still misinterpreted the stupid fricking rule.
Man you are 100% wrong, on just about every one of your points.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:51 pm to MikeD
In that very image you are showing his fingers are already under the ball and it is secured by this point.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:52 pm to the paradigm
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He clearly had possession. Once the ball crosses the plane it should be a TD and the play should be over.
The act of the catch was still going on while he was crossing the plane, and since the catch was not maintained when the ground jarred the ball loose, the play was deemed an incomplete pass
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:53 pm to MikeD
Looks like he has fingers under the ball. Certainly not indisputable that his finger are not under the ball.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:54 pm to East Coast Band
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In that very image you are showing his fingers are already under the ball and it is secured by this point.
Uhhhh that was right after the ball spun 90 degrees because his hand came off the ball AKA 'secured' by the people that don't understand the rule
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:56 pm to bradwieser
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Looks like he has fingers under the ball. Certainly not indisputable that his finger are not under the ball.
Also, not indisputable that the tip of the ball is on the ground, after he lost control.
Yes, he may have had his fingers between the ball and the field, but there is no question the tip of the ball is on the field.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:23 pm to KillerNut9
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It’s been hours since the game ended and I’m still steaming man.
Losing fair and square is one thing. Losing because of an absolute highway robbery is another, especially when it cost the Steelers the 1 seed and additional week of rest for their studs.
I legitimately haven't been this pissed off about a regular season loss in my life.
I am absolutely pissed off.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:37 pm to KillerNut9
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I’ve yet to see a replay that proves this. The ball obviously moved, but there’s no clear proof it hit the ground when doing so.
Hence...he did not maintain control.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 9:47 pm to fillmoregandt
The NFL catch rule requires that he::
The "Going to Ground" rule only applies if he has not 'demonstrated that he is clearly a runner' (i.e. has not satisfied part c, above). I believe James was capable of tucking the ball away (and very nearly or even did) before electing to reach for the goal line. Thus, he became a runner and subsequently scored a touchdown. He had simultaneous control of the ball and his body, and turned upfield to gain 4+ more feet. That, to me, is a 'football move' and cuts out the GTG rule.
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c. maintains control of the ball after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, until he has the ball long enough to clearly become a runner. A player has the ball long enough to become a runner when, after his second foot is on the ground, he is capable of avoiding or warding off impending contact of an opponent, tucking the ball away, turning up field, or taking additional steps (see 3-2-7-Item 2).
The "Going to Ground" rule only applies if he has not 'demonstrated that he is clearly a runner' (i.e. has not satisfied part c, above). I believe James was capable of tucking the ball away (and very nearly or even did) before electing to reach for the goal line. Thus, he became a runner and subsequently scored a touchdown. He had simultaneous control of the ball and his body, and turned upfield to gain 4+ more feet. That, to me, is a 'football move' and cuts out the GTG rule.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 10:03 pm to Roger Klarvin
Should have just let it stand and literally no one is even talking about it
Posted on 12/17/17 at 10:09 pm to karmew32
Based on what I have seen the last few weeks and today I am convinced that the league office is doing their best while using the refs to control the outcome of games as best as they can.
Never thought I would ever say that.
Never thought I would ever say that.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 10:29 pm to East Coast Band
Yes the ball touches the ground. His right hand is barely on the ball and off to the side and his left hand is not on the ball at all. He may have had two fingers of his right hand under the ball.
However, that was a TD. The fact that his entire lower body is on the ground before then makes that a catch and the ball crossing the plane of the goal line makes that a TD. Doesn't matter what happens after the ball crosses the goal line in that situation, because it was already a TD.
Steelers got fricked!!!
However, that was a TD. The fact that his entire lower body is on the ground before then makes that a catch and the ball crossing the plane of the goal line makes that a TD. Doesn't matter what happens after the ball crosses the goal line in that situation, because it was already a TD.
Steelers got fricked!!!
Posted on 12/17/17 at 10:30 pm to graychef
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Some people have forgotten the whole “catch while going to the ground” thing. The act of the catch itself happened while he was on his way down. He lost control momentarily upon the ball hitting the ground. Incomplete regardless of in the end zone or not
It's not a catch while going to the ground if you initiate a football move. The rubes keep forgetting that
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