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re: How would Bird fare today?

Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:32 am to
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:32 am to
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Idiotic take

Yeah the stronger guys with the more developed bodies would have problems against the weaker, less conditioned and athletic guys.


correct. there are a couple players that could be dropped in to today and be fine.....from the actual 80s and that era, bird would be at the top of that list because his game matches up perfect for todays game.

as others mentioned, a 6'9 3 point shooter that could pass and rebound is lethal in todays game. What he wouldnt be able to do is some of the BS he did back then with the fakes etc
Posted by lsufanva
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:33 am to
Hed be as great as he was. These conversations always seem to fail to discuss the differences in technology and strength/conditioning regiments along with style. Imagine the players of yesteryear with the advancements of today or more interesting, today's players with the lack of advancements they've taken advantage of. LeBron would be a different player under old rules and old strength/conditioning regiments. And HGH or whatever scientific enablements hes obviously used on his body. Not just LeBron, everyone. Cant compare 2 entirely different eras, styles and technological advancements without giving the old the benefits of them or new players lacking them. Bird born today would be an elite version of Cooper Flagg. LeBron for instance would be Magic Johnson. Curry more of a Reggie Miller but lacking that dog.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:38 am to
Larry would school all these lazy young punks today.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:42 am to
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These conversations always seem to fail to discuss the differences in technology and strength/conditioning regiments along with style.


These conversations pretty much never forget that, actually

It's a major crutch for the people who want the older players to compete today, primarily

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Cant compare 2 entirely different eras, styles and technological advancements without giving the old the benefits of them

Sure you can


Posted by ghost2most
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:43 am to
Bird was more athletic than Luka and Jokic. He’d even better than he was in the 80s.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:45 am to
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bird would be at the top of that list because his game matches up perfect for todays game.


Yeah like I said I'd pick him over Jordan

Bird had a better overall understanding of the game and was a better passer and much better shooter.

The only guys with elite passing, shooting, and understanding/ reading of the game from the past who would fail today are the ones who aren't tall. Enough. Bird clearly was tall enough to be unique with this skill set and it would translate today.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:47 am to
It would be funny to see Bird in modern long shorts
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:54 am to
see i think MJ would be fine in todays game. his acceleration and first step and overall athletic ability lends itself to being good in todays game. I think he would dominate.

Bird, Pippen, MJ, Shaq(skinny orlando magic shaq) and a few others could slide right in todays game

i do agree with everything you said other then that though. The bodies would be the issue overall like you said.

there are a few others that could play in todays game for sure.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:02 am to
I think MJ would be fine but Bird would be better.

MJ would have issues with modern defense and can't shoot the 3 well enough. He'd still be really good on defense, clearly.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:17 am to
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The players of today wouldnt last a quarter playing in the 80's. The 80's NBA is more physical than todays NFL
They didn't carry the ball in the 80s like they do now. It's unwatchable.
Posted by OhioLSUfan
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:25 am to
Bird would be a great stretch 4 in today’s game
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:31 am to
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I think MJ would be fine but Bird would be better.

MJ would have issues with modern defense and can't shoot the 3 well enough. He'd still be really good on defense, clearly.


i think he would shine driving and the fast pace of todays game

but yea I actually think of all the old school guys, Bird might fare better than anyone. at least of the superstars.
Posted by migui8618
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:48 am to
He'd be drummed out of the league for making fun of Lebron's hair.
Posted by HeartAttackTiger
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:08 am to
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Bird had a soft 80s body.


Me thinks you didn't watch much basketball for that era.
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:29 am to
Basically Luka, but smarter and plays defense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:31 am to
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Me thinks you didn't watch much basketball for that era.

I was a child, but there is youtube.

However, Jordan was the outlier in the 90s with his routine, and that's standard/intro stuff today.

Just look at 80s Bird:





Dudes in the 80s are not built for today's game. Yes you can say that's not fair, but I didn't start this thread (and I have given Bird praise even with those issues).
Posted by PP7 for heisman
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:07 am to
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The players of today wouldnt last a quarter playing in the 80's. The 80's NBA is more physical than todays NFL

Outside of lumbering centers who sat in the key for 24 seconds, players today are bigger, faster, stronger, and run more than any time in NBA history.

The impact of moving significantly more would impact a player's ability to hold up physically more than getting body checked while driving into the paint.

How many guys in the 80s and 90s could keep up with the pace of modern NBA with modern actions? There's much more to basketball than hard fouls around the rim.

Posted by PP7 for heisman
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:17 am to
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Bird was more athletic than Luka and Jokic. He’d even better than he was in the 80s.

I'm not a huge Luka defender, but Jokic does everything better than Bird did. I don't think the older generation understands how good Joker is. He's got a legit chance of being the best player of all time.

That's why I think Bird would be a slightly smaller, slightly less efficient version of Jokic. I don't know if he'd perform better than he did in the 80s, but his style of play (if he added more 3s) is definitely suited better for today's game.

Still a hall of famer - as long as his body could hold up.
Posted by Da #1 Stunna
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:23 am to
He would be fine.
He would still be an all time great.
He played at his speed. His own pace......and it was highly effective then, and now.

See Luka Doncic

Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
Member since Feb 2021
1753 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:35 am to
I legit think Bird would make LeBron cry.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 10:36 am
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