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CU_Tigers4life
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How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
This is a small number, but any indy school that finishes #1 in the CFP poll can only be ranked #5 in a seeding if the format holds as it's currently being proposed.

Notre Dame is the main player but even BYU has to think about what to do.

Notre Dame will almost certainly have to join the ACC in football which would be good for the league because it would likely stay at 15 teams which would end divisional play.

I believe BYU wants into to the Big 12 but I don't think the league wants them and I doubt the PAC 12 wants a Mormon School in their league.
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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
Hopefully they'll join a conference.


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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
Best news ACC has gotten in about a decade


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KosmoCramer
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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
All start a new conference, don't play any "conference" games, and the teams with the best two records play in a conference title game.


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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
They would almost certainly make an exemption for Notre Dame


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Buckeye Backer
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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
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This is a small number, but any indy school that finishes #1 in the CFP poll can only be ranked #5 in a seeding if the format holds as it's currently being proposed.

Notre Dame is the main player but even BYU has to think about what to do.

Notre Dame will almost certainly have to join the ACC in football which would be good for the league because it would like stay at 15 teams which would end divisional play.

I believe BYU wants into to the Big 12 but I don't think the league wants them and I doubt the PAC 12 wants a Mormon School in their league.



Really good question. I was thinking about this yesterday and this realization could truly spur the next conference expansion/realignment situation.

Notre Dame - ACC
BYU - AAC
Army - MAC
Liberty - SBC
UMass - MAC
New Mexico St - CUSA West
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chalmetteowl
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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
Army is going to the AAC if anything

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Liberty - SBC
UMass - MAC
New Mexico St - CUSA West


Why would they care what happens with the playoffs


TomRollTideRitter
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Notre Dame - ACC
BYU - AAC
Army - MAC


I wouldn’t be surprised if Notre Dame holds out as an independent. They may honestly prefer getting the home playoff game to the bye. There’s going to be such a large gap between round 1 and 2 that it won’t be like a normal bye week advantage.

I think you’re right on BYU. I think this playoff system will give the AAC the ability to raid the MW as well.

I don’t know if Army will care much about a playoff to be honest. They would almost certainly aim higher than the MAC though if they do join a conference.

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Liberty - SBC
UMass - MAC
New Mexico St - CUSA West


These schools are all in conferences by necessity rather than choice. UMass was kicked out of the B1G, NMSU never got an invite when the WAC ended and Liberty was reportedly too politically charged for the CUSA and SBC to accept them despite offering way more money than the conference admission fee.


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There’s going to be such a large gap between round 1 and 2 that it won’t be like a normal bye week advantage.


This is very true. Hmm.


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chalmetteowl
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think this playoff system will give the AAC the ability to raid the MW as well.
I think the AAC and MW are basically the Eastern and Western versions of each other


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CU_Tigers4life
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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
Here's a curveball...

Take a team like West Virginia. That had no choice but to head to the Big 12 when conference alignment went down because the ACC didn't want them at the time thanks to the snobs of the tobacco road Mafia.

I believe the Grant of Rights expire in 2025. They don't fit in the Big 12 and never will. They make good conference money, but would it be a reach to wonder if they would be open to jumping to the AAC if it gains Playoff Access or even the ACC it they wanted them this time?


Buckeye Backer
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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
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I don’t know if Army will care much about a playoff to be honest. They would almost certainly aim higher than the MAC though if they do join a conference.


AAC would work too. Army football has been very competitive since 2016, with 2019 being the one down year at 5-8. Why wouldnt they care? In 2018, they could have easily been in the mix with one bounce of the ball going their way.

2020 - 9-3
2018 - 11-2 ranked #19....one play away from winning at Oklahoma in OT. If they win that game...they could have made the playoffs?? Thats why they should care!
2017- 10-3
2016 - 8-5


TomRollTideRitter
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but would it be a reach to wonder if they would be open to jumping to the AAC if it gains Playoff Access


I can’t see this happening. ACC TV payout per team exceeds $30M. I think the American one is like $8-$10M.

Maybe we see new conferences formed though.

West Virginia
Pitt
Penn State
Maryland
Rutgers
Temple
Boston College
Syracuse
Louisville
Cincinnati

Would the winner of that be one of top 6 ranked conference champions? Probably so.

Would that conference pull a good TV deal? Not B1G or SEC money but probably so.


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Buckeye Backer
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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
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Here's a curveball...

Take a team like West Virginia. That had no choice but to head to the Big 12 when conference alignment went down because the ACC didn't want them at the time thanks to the snobs of the tobacco road Mafia.

I believe the Grant of Rights expire in 2025. They don't fit in the Big 12 and never will. They make good conference money, but would it be a reach to wonder if they would be open to jumping to the AAC if it gains Playoff Access or even the ACC it they wanted them this time?


I made a conference expansion thread a month or so ago and brought up this very situation and got laughed at. I am with you, i could see the day where they at least make a legit inquiry about it. Boise St and SDSU will be joining the AAC for football any day now if you read the writings out there. If the AAC brings in Boise St, SDSU and BYU...would that be enough to get WVU as the 15th member? Would the AAC try and get 1 more school to make 16? Makes you at least think about it in my opinion.

AAC EAST:

WVU
Cincinnati
UCF
Memphis
Navy
ECU
USF
Temple

AAC West:

Boise St
BYU
San Diego St
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Tulane



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TomRollTideRitter
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If they win that game...they could have made the playoffs?? Thats why they should care!


Maybe. I don’t know if they’re ranked top 12 even winning that game, and I don’t think they would have had that record in a conference. Army football was so bad when they were in the CUSA. I think they may value the schedule control.

It’s possible we see more teams try to make the jump to FBS. The new WAC I believe stated that was a goal which is where NMSU would play.

Maybe we see a northeast mid major league:

Army
UMass
UConn
Marshall
Old Dominion
Liberty
Buffalo
James Madison
Delaware
Towson


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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
If I am ND, I think I would rather stay independent and be able to host a home playoff game while being maxed out at #5 than join a conference, deal with everything that comes along with it and be able to be ranked 1-4 spots higher (with no home playoff game).


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I Bleed Garnet
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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
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Really good question. I was thinking about this yesterday and this realization could truly spur the next conference expansion/realignment situation.

Notre Dame - ACC
BYU - AAC
Army - MAC
Liberty - SBC
UMass - MAC
New Mexico St - CUSA West

This is a very good one!
Thank you!


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ragincajun03
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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
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Liberty - SBC
UMass - MAC
New Mexico St - CUSA West


Why would they care what happens with the playoffs


One of the proposals gaining steam is highest rated G5 conference champ, right?

Then MAYBE that could be why they care. Just a hunch, though.


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VADawg
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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
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I don’t know if Army will care much about a playoff to be honest. They would almost certainly aim higher than the MAC though if they do join a conference


I bet they would replace UConn in the AAC to join Navy.


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ragincajun03
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re: How Will the Independents Handle the New Playoffs?
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Liberty - SBC


I know there's a bunch of Belt school fans who don't want Liberty in their conference because of politics.

But adding them would raise the quality of the Sunbelt in football and softball.


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