re: How obvious is it that the NBA is a vastly superior product to the NFL?

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Depends where you go. I'd put places like OKC, GS, and Memphis up against any college atmosphere when it is a big game, especially in the playoffs.

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Yeah, but the biggest venus in college (Duke, Kansas, Wisconsin) are up for EVERY game.

I really only care about the Saints and my fantasy team. I never watch a full game unless it involves the Saints or if I'm drinking with friends.

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How obvious is it that the NBA is a vastly superior product to the NFL?

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I've grown to not even care about the Saints. I honestly could not care less if they win on Sundays. If they get to the playoffs, I will cheer for them though.

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Outside of the Saints games I don't really watch the NFL. I grew up loving the Saints, but this year something was off. Maybe it was the fact that the team was so bad, but I just think the games are boring nowadays. I wish the NFL would have followed the college route by reforming the game without drastically changing it.

I have two teams that I will love for the rest of my life, unconditionally.

LSU Football
Yankees Baseball


In all the other sports, I just latch on to whatever team has players that I like and plays the type of style I like. For example, the 2010-2012 Celtics, 2011 Mavs, 2004-2006 Pistons, 2001-2003 Kings in basketball. The Patriots recently in football.

However, the Pels might be moving towards that list of teams I cheer for no matter what. At least for the next 10-12 years while we have AD (hopefully).

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Yeah I totally disagree with the notion that nba arenas are as exciting as top college ones. Watching a Kansas home game is fricking exhilarating and the crowd is wayyyy more hyped than any nba game.

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It obviously varies by game WAYY more in the NBA and a lot of teams have bad atmospheres, but I will put up what Memphis will look like Sunday when they play the Hawks up against any college venue.

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And I get that CBB is way worse than the nba but it's just as fun. I think it's actually more to fun to follow in the regular season. So much shite is going on. Trying to make the torpor ament, trying to win the conference, fighting for seeding, etc...every game has huge impacts on all of that. It's great.

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I am seriously trying, but I just can't keep up with it as much anymore. The product has just gotten too bad and I blame my enjoyment of the NBA on that a lot.

Then again it might just be because I mainly watch SEC basketball....

eta: I've enjoyed watching Arsenal way more this year than Bama or Kentucky basketball

I prefer football to basketball, but I like the NBA better than the NFL.

its been this way for a solid ~5 yrs now

The NFL is still the much, much better product and it's not even really close. The best two sports leagues/products in this country are the NFL and college football, and then there is a huge gap before anyone else factors in.

The NBA calendar shouldn't start until Christmas Day, maybe Thanksgiving Day at the earliest. It's hard for me to really get into the NBA when the better sport is going on and heating up when the NBA starts. It's also hard to care about a regular season when I know over half the teams in the league are going to make the playoffs and 2-4 playoff teams are going to be at or below .500 each year, while the NFL has only had two teams in the history of the league make it in with sub .500 records. They need to lop off at least 4 playoff teams and then we'll have something again.