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re: How exactly was the 80-90s NBA better than current? Talent wise
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:40 am to stout
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:40 am to stout
I honestly think some of you have never seen a 80s basketball game in your life. Defense was completely non-existant, 115-110 was the average score for a game between 2 good teams
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:43 am to rocket31
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doubtful, Lebron outweighs Rodman by 50+
Rodman constantly played against people heavier than him and it didn't matter. He handled Shaq even a few times
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Todays players are just so much more physically dominating
You're the only one in this thread that thinks the game today is more physical than it was then. Taking out hand checking killed any chance of that ever being true.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:44 am to SabiDojo
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Spurs >>>>>>>>>>> Celtics from any era.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:44 am to lsupride87
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best player
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CP3
He's lucky if he's top 5 all time
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:47 am to stout
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He handled Shaq even a few times
um they doubled Shaq on nearly every possession that series.
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You're the only one in this thread that thinks the game today is more physical than it was then
todays are bigger, faster, and stronger but we are supposed to believe the game is less physical.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:48 am to rocket31
quote:On average players today are bigger stronger and faster, but in the 90's the style of play in the NBA was much, much more physical than it is today. Too physical actually. It hurt the game and they had to start changing rules to clean it up.
todays are bigger, faster, and stronger but we are supposed to believe the game is less physical.
I think today's game is a good sweet spot between the free wheeling offenses of the early 80's and the physical play of the 90's.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 11:49 am
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:50 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Defense was completely non-existant,
I am not bing a homer but you can look up defensive stats from guys like Jordan, Dumars, Payton, Mutumbo, Stockton, Kareem. I could go on.
Some of the best defensive players ever and they were from that era.
That's not to discredit the good defensive players of today because there are plenty but to say D wasn't played then is idiotic.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:51 am to rocket31
Dude, Kevin McHale was an enforcer. The dude had the body and athleticism of a Greek god.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:51 am to WDE24
99-04 was the best defensive era in the NBA ever; hand checking wasnt eliminated until 05.
you got your years mixed up.
also, back in the 80s, 90s, you couldnt play zone..so the elite scorers had it easier.
you got your years mixed up.
also, back in the 80s, 90s, you couldnt play zone..so the elite scorers had it easier.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 11:54 am
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:51 am to stout
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That's not to discredit the good defensive players of today because there are plenty but to say D wasn't played then is idiotic.
I agree with this........
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:52 am to rocket31
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todays are bigger, faster, and stronger but we are supposed to believe the game is less physical.
They may be bigger and faster but when you aren't allowed to hand check or have guys LBJs size flopping like a fish out of water for calls and gets them it's pretty obvious how much less physical it is.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:53 am to rocket31
quote:I didn't get my years mixed up, I was referring to the physical style of play not just hand checking or your claimed best era of defense. I was also just using general time periods using decades (obviously every era didn't stop and end abruptly and didn't directly coincide with the calendar changing to an even ten year period).
99-04 was the best defensive era in the NBA ever; hand checking wasnt eliminated until 05.
you got your years mixed up
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 11:57 am
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:53 am to TigerinATL
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The league has basically traded out slow guys that can shoot for fast/athletic guys that can dunk on fast breaks
like this:
instead of this?
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:55 am to molsusports
Exceptions to every rule. That doesn't change the status quo.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:55 am to Buckeye06
quote:Go look up CP3 numbers before you make an absolute fool of yourself
He's lucky if he's top 5 all time
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:58 am to stout
I'm just saying, extraordinary players who are great because of their fundamentals (kevin mchale or tim duncan) or because of their athleticism (shawn kemp or russell westbrook) will play at pretty much the highest level in any era.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:01 pm to lsupride87
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Go look up CP3 numbers before you make an absolute fool of yourself
Where would you rank him just at his position?
Serious question here.
There are a ton of greats at PG.
Jason Kidd, Gary Payton, Nash, Isiah, Stockton, Oscar Robertson, Magic, Marbury, Dennis Johnson, Hardaway, Iverson, Bob Cousy and I am sure I missed some.
Where do you see CP3 just at his position?
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:02 pm to lsupride87
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Go look up CP3 numbers before you make an absolute fool of yourself
Magic, Stockton, Thomas, Big O are all greater than him. For his career Kidd, as of now is better than him. In 5 years, he'll be top 5, but not right now
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:05 pm to Buckeye06
GP, Nash...
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:07 pm to molsusports
I agree with that but some would do better in different eras than others just because it might match their style of play more.
Rodman would have flagrant 2s every night of the week if he played today for example.
Guys like MJ, Kobe, LBJ though it wouldn't matter when they played as they're all talented enough and smart enough players to play in any era.
Rodman would have flagrant 2s every night of the week if he played today for example.
Guys like MJ, Kobe, LBJ though it wouldn't matter when they played as they're all talented enough and smart enough players to play in any era.
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