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re: How can anyone defend Deshaun Watson after reading the victims testimonies?

Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:17 pm to
You've asked for evidence like a dozen times in this thread, you provide no evidence to back up your point even if its somewhere between they are all lying or all telling the truth. No one does.

I don't believe all of them. I don't think they are all lying. But we don't have the evidence in the public sphere. Asking for it from someone else when we are all just speculating anyway is a tad hypocritical.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:20 pm to
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You've asked for evidence like a dozen times in this thread, you provide no evidence to back up your point even if its somewhere between they are all lying or all telling the truth. No one does.

My thought as I've now said over and over and over and over again is that I don't know what happened.

Are you asking me to provide you evidence to prove I don't know?

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I don't believe all of them.
Oh, I like how you get to have a little nuance but I don't. Cool, cool.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70000 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:22 pm to
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This dude has over 60 women saying he did it and he has close 2 dozen settlements

It’s like some of you choose to ignore the obvious
Not defending Watson but the facts are not as you allege here.

He got around 60 massages.

Around 25 of those at present claim he did something inappropriate (or worse) during their event with him.

The other 30+ at present have not publicly commented on their interaction with Watson.

PS: He's a bully and a POS.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
6193 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:25 pm to
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Does 20 Settlements count as Civil court evidence?


Actually No.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:25 pm to
You were jumping on someone else about needing "facts" when you've obviously constructed SOME sort of opinion on the matter, also without having the facts

I don't care what that opinion is, and it doesn't matter. Its just hypocritical, youre trying to come off as this intellectual fact finder when theres zero substances to your skepticism since you also have an opinion whether you actually state it or not.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:28 pm to
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You were jumping on someone else about needing "facts" when you've obviously constructed SOME sort of opinion on the matter, also without having the facts

What opinion is that? Go ahead, let's talk this out so we can finally get you caught up here. What opinions are those that I have?
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when theres zero substances to your skepticism
Other than the fact that we do know that a small subset of the women were caught on text stating they were just in it for the money, right?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53056 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:33 pm to
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What’s your point?


An indictment is VERY easy to get. The prosecutors presented to a grand jury and they no true billed it. There is something we don’t know here, because indictments are not hard.
Posted by Big Ghana Soccer Fan
D.C.
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:37 pm to
Lawyers can also try to sway prosecutors into dropping the charges too
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:39 pm to
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when theres zero substances to your skepticism
Other than the fact that we do know that a small subset of the women were caught on text stating they were just in it for the money, right?



Way to cut the entire quote, and the context, off

later dude, agree to disagree. Hope your "fact finding" mission succeeds.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53056 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:40 pm to
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Lawyers can also try to sway prosecutors into dropping the charges too


True. But In this case the prosecutor presented to a grand jury and they no true billed.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 12:42 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:41 pm to
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later dude, agree to disagree.
Would be cool to do this but you've proven over and over and over and over and over that you have no idea what my stance is despite me stating it multiple times.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
46865 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:46 pm to
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I don't blindly believe all 25 women


What specific evidence leads you to not believe them?


No evidence, but years of life experience and a court system that is heavily tilted in the favor of women tells me that there are definitely some opportunists in this group.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:47 pm to
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No evidence, but years of life experience and a court system that is heavily tilted in the favor of women tells me that there are definitely some opportunists in this group.

There's also some that admitted to being opportunists.
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8628 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:52 pm to
Allegedly
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:08 pm to
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People exposed themselves and made overtures all the time (not ones i wanted to unfortunately). Was all of that illegal?


This site really has a collection of special people
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:33 pm to
shouldn't you need more facts before you take a stance? if we want it to be about "the facts" that is
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:37 pm to
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shouldn't you need more facts before you take a stance?
My stance is "I don't know." I'm only telling you that for the 37th time now.

How many facts does one need before their stance of I don't know?
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:40 pm to
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My stance is "I don't know." I'm only telling you that for the 37th time now.


Yeah and I said your comments sway decidedly one way for someone who "doesn't know".

you're just an amoeba who has no idea what might have happened. Just a truth seeker with no inherent bias or actual opinion. I've encountered a unicorn with beachfront property for sale in Arizona.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 2:24 pm to
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you're just an amoeba who has no idea what might have happened.
Psst, neither do you

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Yeah and I said your comments sway decidedly one way for someone who "doesn't know".

As the other poster stated, this is because you've whiffed on reading comprehension of my posts.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 2:25 pm to
They took depositions and had hearings
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