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re: How can anyone defend Deshaun Watson after reading the victims testimonies?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:17 pm to shel311
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:17 pm to shel311
You've asked for evidence like a dozen times in this thread, you provide no evidence to back up your point even if its somewhere between they are all lying or all telling the truth. No one does.
I don't believe all of them. I don't think they are all lying. But we don't have the evidence in the public sphere. Asking for it from someone else when we are all just speculating anyway is a tad hypocritical.
I don't believe all of them. I don't think they are all lying. But we don't have the evidence in the public sphere. Asking for it from someone else when we are all just speculating anyway is a tad hypocritical.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:20 pm to TrussvilleTide
quote:My thought as I've now said over and over and over and over again is that I don't know what happened.
You've asked for evidence like a dozen times in this thread, you provide no evidence to back up your point even if its somewhere between they are all lying or all telling the truth. No one does.
Are you asking me to provide you evidence to prove I don't know?

quote:Oh, I like how you get to have a little nuance but I don't. Cool, cool.
I don't believe all of them.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:22 pm to cas4t
quote:Not defending Watson but the facts are not as you allege here.
This dude has over 60 women saying he did it and he has close 2 dozen settlements
It’s like some of you choose to ignore the obvious
He got around 60 massages.
Around 25 of those at present claim he did something inappropriate (or worse) during their event with him.
The other 30+ at present have not publicly commented on their interaction with Watson.
PS: He's a bully and a POS.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:25 pm to JodyPlauche
quote:
Does 20 Settlements count as Civil court evidence?
Actually No.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:25 pm to shel311
You were jumping on someone else about needing "facts" when you've obviously constructed SOME sort of opinion on the matter, also without having the facts
I don't care what that opinion is, and it doesn't matter. Its just hypocritical, youre trying to come off as this intellectual fact finder when theres zero substances to your skepticism since you also have an opinion whether you actually state it or not.

I don't care what that opinion is, and it doesn't matter. Its just hypocritical, youre trying to come off as this intellectual fact finder when theres zero substances to your skepticism since you also have an opinion whether you actually state it or not.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:28 pm to TrussvilleTide
quote:What opinion is that? Go ahead, let's talk this out so we can finally get you caught up here. What opinions are those that I have?
You were jumping on someone else about needing "facts" when you've obviously constructed SOME sort of opinion on the matter, also without having the facts
quote:Other than the fact that we do know that a small subset of the women were caught on text stating they were just in it for the money, right?
when theres zero substances to your skepticism
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:33 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
What’s your point?
An indictment is VERY easy to get. The prosecutors presented to a grand jury and they no true billed it. There is something we don’t know here, because indictments are not hard.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:37 pm to BBONDS25
Lawyers can also try to sway prosecutors into dropping the charges too
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:39 pm to shel311
quote:
when theres zero substances to your skepticism
Other than the fact that we do know that a small subset of the women were caught on text stating they were just in it for the money, right?
Way to cut the entire quote, and the context, off

later dude, agree to disagree. Hope your "fact finding" mission succeeds.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:40 pm to Big Ghana Soccer Fan
quote:
Lawyers can also try to sway prosecutors into dropping the charges too
True. But In this case the prosecutor presented to a grand jury and they no true billed.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:41 pm to TrussvilleTide
quote:Would be cool to do this but you've proven over and over and over and over and over that you have no idea what my stance is despite me stating it multiple times.
later dude, agree to disagree.

Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:46 pm to TrussvilleTide
quote:
I don't blindly believe all 25 women
What specific evidence leads you to not believe them?
No evidence, but years of life experience and a court system that is heavily tilted in the favor of women tells me that there are definitely some opportunists in this group.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:47 pm to VADawg
quote:There's also some that admitted to being opportunists.
No evidence, but years of life experience and a court system that is heavily tilted in the favor of women tells me that there are definitely some opportunists in this group.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:08 pm to brmark70816
quote:
People exposed themselves and made overtures all the time (not ones i wanted to unfortunately). Was all of that illegal?
This site really has a collection of special people
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:33 pm to shel311
shouldn't you need more facts before you take a stance? if we want it to be about "the facts" that is
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:37 pm to TrussvilleTide
quote:My stance is "I don't know." I'm only telling you that for the 37th time now.
shouldn't you need more facts before you take a stance?
How many facts does one need before their stance of I don't know?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 1:40 pm to shel311
quote:
My stance is "I don't know." I'm only telling you that for the 37th time now.
Yeah and I said your comments sway decidedly one way for someone who "doesn't know".
you're just an amoeba who has no idea what might have happened. Just a truth seeker with no inherent bias or actual opinion. I've encountered a unicorn with beachfront property for sale in Arizona.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 2:24 pm to TrussvilleTide
quote:Psst, neither do you
you're just an amoeba who has no idea what might have happened.
quote:As the other poster stated, this is because you've whiffed on reading comprehension of my posts.
Yeah and I said your comments sway decidedly one way for someone who "doesn't know".
Posted on 8/12/22 at 2:25 pm to KosmoCramer
They took depositions and had hearings
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