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re: Houston Rockets vs. LA Clippers | Game 6 | 9:30 (CT) on ESPN | LAC 3-2

Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:44 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:44 am to
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These overreactions will seem silly a week from now.
I have no clue who will win this series, but you gotta admire the blinded fan confidence here.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59926 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:45 am to
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We know Dwight and company will fold if they go down 0-2.
Couldn't be more wrong.

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They did, however, have a lack of their very best player. Also, one of the top five players in the league.

I would argue that the struggle to overcome that fact was MUCH MORE difficult than a little bit of "rust."


You'd be wrong but you're consistently wrong so it's nothing new imo
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:45 am to
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I would argue that the struggle to overcome that fact was MUCH MORE difficult than a little bit of "rust."
Boom sounds like he would prefer 1 day rest with no Harden as opposed to Harden with a week off.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:45 am to
the only reason why this thread is so active right now is the excuses that are being thrown out.

it's ok to admit that your team played like absolute dog shite, guys. they were beaten up and down the court by a team that obviously wanted it more.

effort and energy have to pick up by the double for game 2, or else it may just be a short series.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:46 am to
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You'd be wrong but you're consistently wrong so it's nothing new imo
So, your argument is that 1 week off with your star is harder to adjust to than 1 day off without your star?

The BOOM effect!!!
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:46 am to
I always say this, but the Rockets lose uglier than any good team I've ever seen. Early in the season, it would cause me to overreact when we lost, but eventually I got used to it. I came to accept that the team that lost horribly also never lost more than two games in a row a single time during the year.

Now that the playoffs have started, some people are watching the Rockets consistently for the first time, and they are overreacting over the bad games they see. Moreyball is a game of numbers. And when the numbers lose with this team, they lose bad.
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 9:48 am
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:47 am to
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You'd be wrong but you're consistently wrong so it's nothing new imo



Doesn't think the Rockets are going to win the championship: Wrong
Does think the Rockets are going to win the championship: Right
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:48 am to
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effort and energy have to pick up by the double for game 2
Here's what I don't get, SwaggerCopter has basically guaranteed a series victory at least 2-3 times. Maybe I'm incorrect, but I think I remember him also saying at some point in the game last night, the Rockets were playing uninspired.

Those 2 statements can't go together, just can't. If you think your team was uninspired in game 1 of the 2nd round of the playoffs, you almost have to be worried about your team, no way you can then guarantee a series victory and have it mean anything whatsoever.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59926 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:48 am to
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So, your argument is that 1 week off with your star is harder to adjust to than 1 day off without your star?

The BOOM effect!!!


clearly it was in this case. the results speak for themselves.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:49 am to
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Now that the playoffs have started, some people are watching the Rockets consistently for the first time, and they are overreacting over the bad games they see
There are just as many people guaranteeing a HOU series win as LAC in this thread, you're reaching.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:50 am to
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clearly it was in this case. the results speak for themselves
So if you could go back in time, you'd prefer HOU play on 1 day rest with no Harden. Gotcha!!!


sometimes you just lose or play bad, there doesn't have to be magical excuses, shite happens. Seems like an astute fan would realize that has happened as long as sports has been around.
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 9:51 am
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:50 am to
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learly it was in this case. the results speak for themselves.


This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 9:52 am
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83734 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:51 am to
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clearly it was in this case. the results speak for themselves.
sorry boom, but i can't back you here.

when an offense runs with Austin Rivers at the point, there is an extreme adjustment.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83734 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:52 am to
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Here's what I don't get, SwaggerCopter has basically guaranteed a series victory at least 2-3 times. Maybe I'm incorrect, but I think I remember him also saying at some point in the game last night, the Rockets were playing uninspired.

Those 2 statements can't go together, just can't. If you think your team was uninspired in game 1 of the 2nd round of the playoffs, you almost have to be worried about your team, no way you can then guarantee a series victory and have it mean anything whatsoever.
yeah, I mean I'm not forecasting doom for the rockets yet, but there are certain points of concern here that can't be attributed to just 'rust.'
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59926 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:52 am to
I agree, nothing to get overly worried about if you're a Rockets fan. We've seen games like this one pop up over the course of the season. For as poorly as they played they were right there until the last couple minutes. Basically LAC top 6 all had what would be considered good games for them. Houston had how many guys have good games? ehhh 2 or 3 maybe? Those Clippers role players won't play that well, and HOU will play better.
Posted by LSU Piston
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Member since Feb 2008
3844 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:52 am to
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I always say this, but the Rockets lose uglier than any good team I've ever seen. Early in the season, it would cause me to overreact when we lost, but eventually I got used to it. I came to accept that the team that lost horribly also never lost more than two games in a row a single time during the year. Now that the playoffs have started, some people are watching the Rockets consistently for the first time, and they are overreacting over the bad games they see. Moreyball is a game of numbers. And when the numbers lose with this team, they lose bad.


My gawd man, you have an answer for everything
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:52 am to
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There are just as many people guaranteeing a HOU series win as LAC in this thread, you're reaching.

I don't know if there's anyone (maybe besides boom) guaranteeing a Houston victory.

I don't think I've even said that I guarantee the Clippers are going to win this series. I have, however, said multiple times that I think Clippers/Warriors will be the series of the postseason. And every time I say this, I get responses from Rockets fans such as "you're reaching bro" or "it's pathetic how hard you're trying."

In reality, I just think the Clippers are a better team than the Rockets. They are a team better built for postseason success.

That's why the Clippers are going to win this series. But somehow, that makes me stupid.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:55 am to
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My gawd man, you have an answer for everything


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:57 am to
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Those Clippers role players won't play that well, and HOU will play better.
Amazing!
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27486 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:57 am to
But the people acting like the Rockets just gave zero fricks don't realize that it's always the case when we lose. If the Rockets won all of the games it looked like they weren't trying, they'd be 82-0. I don't think they actually aren't trying. The team just never felt comfortable running their own system last night. And it showed. Last night, I saw a team that looked uncomfortable, not one that quit. I was worried the whole game. We just never got on the same page.

And I do think this is a negative impact of Moreyball. And if overall, we keep winning, I'm okay with that. I think in basketball, sometimes you have to find your way into a game. The Rockets only play one way, so there is never a big offensive adjustment to be made. The players start feeling like Moreyball isn't working in individual games, and then they don't execute like they should.
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