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re: Houston Rockets vs. LA Clippers | Game 6 | 9:30 (CT) on ESPN | LAC 3-2

Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:09 am to
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:09 am to
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Let's put the rust excuse to bed now


I mean...you can't really make a "rust" argument when you jump out to a 13 point lead.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:10 am to
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also, that last 3-4 minutes of the game was absolutely horrible. they practically just quit, no effort on either side of the ball.

i get that you're down by 8-10, but at least show some will and effort out there.
From early on, there were guys in this thread rooting for the Rockets saying they were playing uninspired and like they'd just show up and get the win.

Like I said, that's gotta worry you if you're rooting for the Rockets.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:11 am to
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I mean...you can't really make a "rust" argument when you jump out to a 13 point lead.
The rust, you see, it really sets in in the 2nd half!
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59926 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:23 am to
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mean...you can't really make a "rust" argument when you jump out to a 13 point lead.


They already had 12 turnovers in a little over a quarter when the lead stretched to 13. so yes you can make a rust argument even though they got out to a lead, it's not like they were playing well at the start of the game.
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:24 am to
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Think back for a second bro.

2000 Lakers...Sweep first 3 rds of playoffs. They have a little time off while waiting on the 6ers to finish their series. Rust, sets in. First game of the finals. Lakers lose, at home, due to the rust. Rust gets shaken off in that first game and Lakers go on to win in 5. Now I'm not saying HOU will win in 5, but last night's game was the most clear case of rust that I've seen, since the 2000 finals.

Considering the fact that you don't even have the right year, I'm not going to value your opinion very much.

The Clippers are just better than the Rockets.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59926 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:25 am to
That article looks at 1000s of games. Maybe over 1000s of games there's no overwhelming evidence of rust being a factor, but in a one game situation that article doesn't prove anything.
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:25 am to
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I mean...you can't really make a "rust" argument when you jump out to a 13 point lead.

This.

Clippers/Warriors will salvage this postseason, which has been a rather shitty one so far.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59926 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:27 am to
Lakers 10 days off, Sixers 2 days off. You can nitpick the year bro that doesn't bother me.
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:27 am to
The Rockets weren't even the biggest display of rust in the two games played last night.
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:30 am to
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Lakers 10 days off, Sixers 2 days off. You can nitpick the year bro that doesn't bother me.

The Rockets built a 13-point lead last night. It's just such an asinine statement.

And the Lakers may have been rusty, but the big reason they lost Game 1 that year was because Iverson scored nearly 50 points. I'd call it just as much of a great individual effort as one of the teams just being rusty.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59926 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:31 am to
WRONG 12 turnovers in the first what 15 minutes of the game?! Nearly all of them were unforced. Just bc they got out to a lead doesn't mean they were playing well.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:33 am to
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That article looks at 1000s of games. Maybe over 1000s of games there's no overwhelming evidence of rust being a factor, but in a one game situation that article doesn't prove anything
So only select teams are privy to rust?

So, it's as simple as, have an extended time off, lose = Must be rust!!!

Not the best logic I've ever heard.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:34 am to
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WRONG 12 turnovers in the first what 15 minutes of the game?! Nearly all of them were unforced
And yet up by 13, so sounds like you could argue the Clippers were affected moreso by the rust!!!
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:34 am to
They turned it over 21 times in Game 5 against the Mavs...

What was that, pre-rust?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59926 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:39 am to
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So only select teams are privy to rust?


Do certain teams have a better home court advantage than others? Sure they do.

If you look at every game in the NBA you'll see that homecourt advantage is declining every year. That doesn't mean that the visiting team has a better chance of going into Golden State and winning one game in these playoffs does it? Of course not.

You can't apply that article to every team in every scenario.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59926 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:39 am to
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And yet up by 13, so sounds like you could argue the Clippers were affected moreso by the rust!!!
wrong, they didn't have a layoff rust comes from lack of game action
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27486 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:41 am to
Our style of basketball can lead to high amounts of turnovers from time to time, but last night was just awful. We were on pace for 38 turnovers after the first quarter. We never played well. I said it in the game thread. We would be down 20 against the Warriors playing that way. And eventually, the Clippers loosened up. We continued to play horribly. These overreactions will seem silly a week from now.
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 9:42 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59926 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:42 am to
HOU was so much better than DAL that they could play a below average game and still win. Last night, with LAC hitting 3s it would've taken much more than that.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:43 am to
Team with the 3rd highest turnover rate in the NBA turned the ball over a lot, why are we trying to make excuses as to why it happened?

The turnovers happened because that's what HOU does, turn the ball over a lot. As the other poster said, they just had 21 turnover in their previous game.
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:43 am to
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wrong, they didn't have a layoff rust comes from lack of game action

They did, however, have a lack of their very best player. Also, one of the top five players in the league.

I would argue that the struggle to overcome that fact was MUCH MORE difficult than a little bit of "rust."

The Rockets better figure out a way to win Game 2. Because if they don't, they're gonna get swept. We know Dwight and company will fold if they go down 0-2.
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