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re: Here's what you do if you're Texas, really.
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:40 pm to xiv
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:40 pm to xiv
In my opinion, this is all crazy talk.
The PAC-10 is the WAC-10 minus USC and maybe Oregon in football...
Why would any Texas school want to travel that far to go to games? Makes no since to call them student athletes. My bad, pawn Athletes that just make money for college programs but they don't get paid a dime (hush, hush, wink, wink).
Oh, so now they'll be known as....PAC-16 West, PAC-16 Texas. That is stupid. These clowns are just money hungry and don't give a you know what about these kids. Just use them.
I see the Nebraska point but then again, they won't win in the Big 10 (in my opinion) but it works geographically very well.
The PAC-10 is the WAC-10 minus USC and maybe Oregon in football...
Why would any Texas school want to travel that far to go to games? Makes no since to call them student athletes. My bad, pawn Athletes that just make money for college programs but they don't get paid a dime (hush, hush, wink, wink).
Oh, so now they'll be known as....PAC-16 West, PAC-16 Texas. That is stupid. These clowns are just money hungry and don't give a you know what about these kids. Just use them.
I see the Nebraska point but then again, they won't win in the Big 10 (in my opinion) but it works geographically very well.
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:40 pm to xiv
Texas is.
Outside of Nebraska and OU, the rest of the Big 12 lacks any sort of pull.
Outside of Nebraska and OU, the rest of the Big 12 lacks any sort of pull.
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:40 pm to The Easter Bunny
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horrible tv contracts, and unbalanced sharing of revenue that greatly favors Texas
Nebraska wasn't having any say in the Big 12 that they had earned from 1970 to 2000.
Texas wasn't or hasn't been the #1 school in football polls like Nebraska had been over that time period.
Nebraska wants more money and deserves more money.
I'm saying all this and I couldn't stand Neb through the 80s and 90s
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:43 pm to LSUinHouston
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Why would any Texas school want to travel that far to go to games?
If the PAC adds 6 Big 12 schools they won't travel very much for football games.
It would be the 6 Big 12 schools and the two Arizona schools in one division - and with 7 of 8 conference games within the division every year you only end up traveling to the opposite division every other year
Now for sports other than football? It completely sucks
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:43 pm to LSUinHouston
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Why would any Texas school want to travel that far to go to games?
so that they can afford to keep their athletic department going? If they increase their tv revenue 4x by traveling further it is probably worth it. Plus it isn't like they're taking a fricking bus to Pullman
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:48 pm to AUTigLN11
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so can someone tell me why everyone is trying to get out of the Big 12?
its not that so much as the Big 12 is in play. Its in the center with no where to go, perfect target for conferences looking to expand.
The reason xiv's plan would not work is, Nebraska and Missouri are looking to bail out of the Big 12 BECAUSE of UT's dominance.
Texas is a big school and their athletic dept generates the the most revenue. Because they bring 3 top 10 TV markets they are naturally an attractive M&A target. That gives them power, but not enough that they can start out on their own. A&M can bring the same markets basically with out the trouble.
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:50 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Nebraska and Missouri are looking to bail out of the Big 12 is because they would make twice as much or more in the Big 10
FIFY
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:50 pm to LSU9102
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Nebraska wants more money and deserves more money.
why, because they were better in the 90's? This is about Revenue, Texas is the #1 school in the 2nd largest state and 3 of the top 10 TV markets. They bring in more revenue.
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:51 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:Which is why I don't understand A&M's fidelity to Texas. If you look at the schools and what they actually want, Texas should go to the Pac-10, A&M to the SEC, and they preserve their Thanksgiving rivalry. You're not married, guys. Go to the conferences which best suit you, even though they are different. It'll give you even more reasons to hate each other.
A&M can bring the same markets basically with out the trouble.
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:55 pm to molsusports
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molsusports
they are not going to leave for less money clearly, but its seems like they feel everything caters to Texas in the Big 12 and that is part of the reason they make less in the Big 12 than they would in the Big 10
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:58 pm to H-Town Tiger
You're right, H-Town, and believe me, Nebraska has a bad taste in their mouth from December's game vs. Texas. The correct call was made, but it's a call that's never ever made, and it's a call that was made because it's Texas. (At least, that's how even the most reasonable Husker sees it. It's very Arkansan of them, and I don't blame them a bit.)
But to respond to another post, I think my Texas plan will work. They'll always be #1 in their region, and they'll always have that power. I say, if you've got it, flaunt it. Tell Nebraska and Missouri to frick off. Break off and buddy up with the Cotton Bowl again and form a new conference. The Cotton Bowl would be a BCS bowl featuring the Longhorns at least half the time. That's $$$.
But to respond to another post, I think my Texas plan will work. They'll always be #1 in their region, and they'll always have that power. I say, if you've got it, flaunt it. Tell Nebraska and Missouri to frick off. Break off and buddy up with the Cotton Bowl again and form a new conference. The Cotton Bowl would be a BCS bowl featuring the Longhorns at least half the time. That's $$$.
Posted on 6/9/10 at 3:00 pm to H-Town Tiger
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they are not going to leave for less money clearly, but its seems like they feel everything caters to Texas in the Big 12 and that is part of the reason they make less in the Big 12 than they would in the Big 10
I think there would still be jealousy if Nebraska etc were making less from the Big 12 than Texas was - but the reason a move is a no brainer is because they can make twice as much annually if they move to the Big 10
Long term inequitable revenue sharing is probably a bad call within the same conference - but short term Nebraska wouldn't jump unless they could make more somewhere else
Posted on 6/9/10 at 3:45 pm to Baloo
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Which is why I don't understand A&M's fidelity to Texas.
the only explaination I have for that is, they are aggies.
I thought A&M should have joined the SEC in 92 instead of Arkansas, better fit and more natural rivalry with LSU.
They would be better off in a different conference from Texas and of course they could always play them on Thanksgiving every year.
Posted on 6/9/10 at 4:20 pm to The Easter Bunny
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or they're Baylor, Kansas, KSU, and ISU who are frickED
CUSA welcomes them.
Posted on 6/9/10 at 4:21 pm to xiv
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You're Texas. You're perhaps the most powerful school there is. Take control here.
You're tied to Texas A&M, which isn't a problem because you want them in your conference no matter what.
Just start from scratch and form a new Southwest Conference, ally yourself with the Cotton Bowl, and sign a deal starting with the next BCS contract, which likely will have the Cotton in the BCS rotation.
So who do you invite to your club?
Oklahoma (and, therefore, Oklahoma State) is the obvious first choice. Then I think you take the two Kansas schools. We're now at 6, and we have two ways to go with this. Eight teams is the minimum for a BCS auto-bid, and 12 is the minimum for a championship game.
At this point, a lot could happen, but doesn't this seem to be the obvious way to go for Texas? Why are they sitting and waiting to be invited--shouldn't they be the ones behind the wheel here?
I agree with all of this!!!!
Posted on 6/9/10 at 4:22 pm to Sophandros
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CUSA welcomes them.
or the MWC
Posted on 6/9/10 at 4:24 pm to xiv
quote:Actually, the correct call was not made. The use of replay to correct the clock should only be used for "egregious error", which the rulebook compares to the clock running for over a minute when it shouldn't. One second hardly reaches this standard. The use of replay violated the college football rulebook. It was the wrong call, and exceeded the refs authority.
The correct call was made, but it's a call that's never ever made, and it's a call that was made because it's Texas.
Posted on 6/9/10 at 4:38 pm to LSU9102
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Texas wasn't or hasn't been the #1 school in football polls like Nebraska had been over that time period
This means jack shite.
Nebraska - $964.9 million endowment
Texas - $12.1 billion endowment
This means something.
Posted on 6/9/10 at 6:14 pm to ToplessTenors4evuh
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This means jack shite.
Nebraska - $964.9 million endowment
Texas - $12.1 billion endowment
This means something.
You bet it does.
..and so does this:
Texas revenue $120M
Nebraska revenue $75M
Osborne has been trying to trade on Nebraska's position 20 years ago. The world changes and the Huskers aren't the big dog anymore.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 7:12 am to Baloo
quote:The correct call was made the wrong way.
Actually, the correct call was not made. The use of replay to correct the clock should only be used for "egregious error", which the rulebook compares to the clock running for over a minute when it shouldn't. One second hardly reaches this standard. The use of replay violated the college football rulebook. It was the wrong call, and exceeded the refs authority.
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