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re: Herbstreit: UGA should be #3

Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:48 pm to
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Also, Herbstreit was the idiot pushing for a Michigan-Ohio State rematch in 2006.


That was Bob Davie
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

Georgia is better than Notre Dame and OU


How do you know that? Not saying you're wrong, but I feel like you can't just assume.

Objectively, UGA isn't better than Alabama.

Objectively, we don't know if OU, Notre Dame, or Clemson are better, and they have the resume to be in the playoff to determine a champion.

Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:50 pm to
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Gotta love ESPN and their SEC bias



This has absolutely nothing to do with SEC bias.

This is an ESPN employee being a good soldier and trying to drum up hype for a reveal show that has zero suspense unless they drum up a conflict.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36160 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

How do you know that? Not saying you're wrong, but I feel like you can't just assume
Obviously I don’t know that but I think it and most of the computer ratings agree with me. I’m pretty certain Georgia would be favored by Vegas in a hypothetical matchup with either team.
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
11781 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:53 pm to
I gotta be consistent, it would be ridiculous to put Georgia in and make Bama play Georgia again in the playoffs. I didn’t like it when it was done to LSU in 1/2012.

These teams played today and once again Georgia didn’t play a 60 minute game. I think OU sucks as a playoff team selection, but they won their sorry conferences championship.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
17811 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

If the playoff is objectively attempting to determine who the best team is, then UGA cannot be in, as they have already proven they are not better than Alabama, who will be the #1 seed.


Picking the Top 4 should be about picking the Top 4. It should have nothing to do with who's already played who.

I also don't see why UGA deserves to be punished for having to play Bama (and nearly winning) while OU gets to play 4-loss Texas. If UGA and OU switched opponents, the outcomes (Bama win, Texas loss) would be the same. Arguably I think UGA would look better in both.

If you're looking at 11-1 UGA, OU, and OSU...UGA has the best resume on the hardest strength of schedule.

If the playoff is about picking the best 4, it's
1. Bama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. UGA
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 10:00 pm
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
3132 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:57 pm to
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52500 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:58 pm to
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So dumb. They don’t belong in over any conference champ.



You PAC 12 bro?

So dumb.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8637 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:01 pm to
Notre Dame would kick OU’s arse with that trash defense.

Since when did having an unbalanced team become a virtue?
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36160 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:01 pm to
The playoff as it is now is a complete joke. This is why they should have used the bcs rankings to pick the four teams.
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
3132 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:03 pm to
Yes, Georgia is clearly better. I mean, yeah, they lost 2 of the 13 games they played (1 game where they got pantsed by a decent LSU team), but facts are facts and my eyes tell me they are better.

I have a solution. They should not keep score in any games. And they should not keep track of wins and losses. Instead, the committee can just watch the teams play or practice, and based on the eye test, pick their 4 favorites.

No team should actually have to earn their way into the final 4 on the field, you know, by winning all of their games. Or winning all of their games except 1.

I do get a laugh reading a lot of these posts though.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
23774 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:04 pm to
We don't deserve to go. In fact, I'm honestly surprised this is even a discussion.

Are we a top 4 team? Almost certainly. But that wouldn't be fair to a team like OU who beat every team they played.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:05 pm to
This is the 5th year of the playoff and only 10 different teams will have made it.

Alabama
Oregon
Florida State
Ohio State
Clemson
Oklahoma
Michigan State
Washington
Georgia
Notre Dame

ETA: And six of those schools are one-time participants. Out of 20 possible playoff spots, 14 have been taken by four schools.
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 10:08 pm
Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
8751 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:05 pm to
People, like Herbstreit, get caught up in the “best” criteria, but it’s never been that. It’s always been most deserving.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

Georgia would be favored by Vegas in a hypothetical matchup with either team.


Likely. but Vegas is in the business of making money, not crowning champions.

Just move to an 8 team playoff:
-All conf champs from the P5 are in
-You can put teams like UCF or your "eye test" teams in with the remaining 3 spots.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:08 pm to
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-All conf champs from the P5 are in

And, obviously, the way conference champions are selected would change. I don't think championship games would go away because they are money makers, but I think some conferences would adopt some version of the Big 12 model; where you get your two best teams in the game.

That wouldn't have been too much of a help this year, because you'd still have teams like Syracuse and Washington having a chance to make the playoff.
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 10:10 pm
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
23774 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:09 pm to
or just eliminate conference title games and just play the first round of an 8 team playoff (top 8 in CFP ranking) on this weekend instead.
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 10:11 pm
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
5298 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:10 pm to
ND needs to be out at #5. They almost lost to Vandy. fricking VANDY. Almost lost to the same Pitt team Clemson is destroying. Struggled won against Northwestern and USC. Oh plus is only team not playing today.
Posted by habanos
Alabama
Member since Feb 2014
1937 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:11 pm to
Nothing wrong with the ND schedule until the other contenders play for their conference championship game while ND gets a bye.

They should at least drop to #4.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:13 pm to
Oklahoma would wreck Clemson's dogshit secondary if Kyler could move around and avoid their elite pass rush.
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 10:13 pm
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