re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs

Petrino of course

But don’t forget Freeze - he had OM right there too.

Those two coaches’ penises did a lot of damage to the parity of the SEC.

When Syracuse fired Paul Pasqualoni and hired Greg fricking Robinson we went from a respectable middle of the pack/bowl team to a laughing stock of college football. SU still hasn't fully recovered.

Jim Levitt had things rolling at USF. Dude got fricked. I know he was bat shite crazy but he was a damn good coach.

Leavitt didn’t get fricked. He’s a maniac. He just couldn’t control himself. He was warned

Texas tech Mike Leach

Paul Hackett was probably the worst Trojan Coach of all-time and yet even he couldn't destroy the program.

It took Pete Carroll 3 years to go from the bottom to National Champions.

You have to be pretty inept as a program to destroy it.

Same with Oklahoma who were dogshite in the 90's and within two years, Stoops won a National Title.

Gerry Faust tried to destroy Notre Dame and within 4 years Lou Holtz had them National Champions.

Great coaches mixed with great programs can always succeed.

So the coaches that destroyed programs were not great programs...they just tasted greatness with a flash in the pan great HC and once he was gone...it went back to mediocrity.

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It’s different with Nebraska, as I think the things that helped them recruit in the 90’s are gone

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The SEC wasn't the SEC in the 90's and all of the 80's...not even close. Nebraska got some of those recruits, Miami, etc.

Nebraska did the worst thing they could've done with Callahan.

They abandoned their identity.

Anybody can chuck the ball around the field and do it much better...other teams have been doing it for decades.

Nebraska tried to re-invent themselves when they had a niche. Nebraska died because of the worst miscalculation...they got greedy and failed to be true to themselves.

And the myth of Nebraska is all about the mid-90's.

From 1980-1993 Nebraska went 4-10 in bowl games. They were always outmatched and usually with speed.

Mid-90's Nebraska was an aberration not the norm. They took guys who other programs wouldn't take. The idea that Nebraska is a fallen program and should be at the top is just based off a few years of dominance. They were consistently exposed in bowl games before the mid-90's.

What we're seeing now is the real Nebraska.

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From 1980-1993 Nebraska went 4-10 in bowl games. They were always outmatched and usually with speed.

Mid-90's Nebraska was an aberration not the norm. They took guys who other programs wouldn't take. The idea that Nebraska is a fallen program and should be at the top is just based off a few years of dominance. They were consistently exposed in bowl games before the mid-90's

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Yep. They took some on the chin against Miami and Florida State in the Orange Bowl. Things turned on a dime for them. They lost a close de-facto title game to FSU 18-16. Noles won the ‘93 title. Hell, Nebraska has a chance to win on a last second field goal. Bowden had been doused and everyone came on the field, but they cleared it and put a second back on.

Announcers were hyping the Huskers for keeping it close despite being undefeated, #1, and an underdog.

Next year they were getting handled by Miami, then Cory Schlesinger took over in the second half to give Osborne the elusive title. Next thing you know, NU is boat-racing Florida and Tennessee for titles 2 and 3.

Nebraska got waxed in 5 straight bowls from 88-92. To act like that was the norm is a reach. Just pull up jhowell’s site and look for yourself.

And those 5 bowl whippings?

88 - lost to 10-1 #2 Miami in the Orange Bowl
89- lost to 9-2 #3 FSU (who had started 0-2) in the Fiesta
90 - lost to 10-0-1 GT (who won split NC) in Citrus
91 - lost to 11-0 NC Miami in the Orange
92 - lost to 10-1 #2 FSU in the Orange

That’s some stout competition. FSU and Miami regularly beat everyone’s asses and then throw in a freak NC-caliber GT team. Sure, Neb got whipped, but them getting whipped was the aberration, not the other way around.

Those other 5 losses during the select period you mentioned? All by 7 points of less and all to teams that finished either #1 or #2 in the AP Poll. A loss is a loss, but they went toe-to-toe during Miami’s and FSU’s heyday, usually in their backyard. They weren’t routinely “outmatched” by any metric.

In the 19 years before ‘88, Nebraska went 12-7 in bowls and their biggest defeat was 7 points, which only happened twice...one of those being a rematch against a 1-loss Oklahoma team they had beaten during the regular season and the other to National Champion Clemson. What part screams “outmatched” here?

Nebraska was a national powerhouse and aside from that 5-year span of facing Miami, FSU and GT, held their own as well as anyone. The idea Nebraska just got wrecked in bowl games on the regular is fiction.