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re: Harden Traded to the Rockets
Posted on 10/28/12 at 1:13 am to hsfolk
Posted on 10/28/12 at 1:13 am to hsfolk
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my point is that OKC did well in the draft when they landed Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, and Harden & now they get punished because of how much the luxury tax would go up on them if all were kept
owners can't see the forest for the trees
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Posted on 10/28/12 at 1:17 am to LSUSaintsHornets
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7-9 million is average center money at this point
he's not an average center. he's a shitty center
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It's hardly killing the flexibility of a team with no chance to compete in the near future either.
unless they need that money to sign players
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Of course the could have.
how? they could only re-sign him b/c he had his bird's rights. they had to trade for him to get those rights
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They couldn't have assembled the team they currently have,
same concept
Posted on 10/28/12 at 1:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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he's not an average center. he's a shitty center
So is kwame brown. He made 6 million last year.
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unless they need that money to sign players
Because rebuilding teams are hotspots for free agents and the ones they do sign never end up being overpaid.
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how? they could only re-sign him b/c he had his bird's rights. they had to trade for him to get those rights
If they wanted to build a middling and grossly overpaid team with no future then yes trading a top 10 pick for Gerald Wallace is a great move, especially considering he had no obligation to stay there and could have walked. They had plenty of cap space to work with to sign Gerald Wallace if they like declining SFs so much.
Anyway I'm going to sleep but enjoyed the discussion,
This post was edited on 10/28/12 at 1:31 am
Posted on 10/28/12 at 1:34 am to LSUSaintsHornets
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So is kwame brown. He made 6 million last year.
and 3 million this year
Posted on 10/28/12 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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Harden-Lin backcourt
lol
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:03 am to sunnydaze
mchale likes the pick and roll. harden and lin are 2 pick and roll point guards, essentially
seriously if montejunas, jones, OR white develop into a good offensive 4 (i think the best would be montejunas turning into a bargnani/dirk and jones turns into a super versatile odom-like sub) to pair with asik, they have a good front and back court
and they have max money to target a potential free agent. imagine if they got a perimeter defensive stud/versatile offensive player like iggy. 3 ball handlers/drivers. 3 shooters (if montejunas develops). a perimeter stopper and a rim stopper. that's how you build a team to win in the NBA today
seriously if montejunas, jones, OR white develop into a good offensive 4 (i think the best would be montejunas turning into a bargnani/dirk and jones turns into a super versatile odom-like sub) to pair with asik, they have a good front and back court
and they have max money to target a potential free agent. imagine if they got a perimeter defensive stud/versatile offensive player like iggy. 3 ball handlers/drivers. 3 shooters (if montejunas develops). a perimeter stopper and a rim stopper. that's how you build a team to win in the NBA today
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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owners can't see the forest for the trees
Can't wait for the next lockout in 2016.
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:24 am to corndeaux
it's going to happen eventually
many of the new rules implemented to help the small market teams will destroy their ability to compete
also, a reasonable solution likely never will be developed until the concept of the "max" salary is abandoned
many of the new rules implemented to help the small market teams will destroy their ability to compete
also, a reasonable solution likely never will be developed until the concept of the "max" salary is abandoned
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:24 am to corndeaux
I'm still in shock this morning that the thunder did this so close to the season opener. They're a very fun to team to watch so it sucks they couldn't come to an agreement.
On another note do the lakers now have a cakewalk to the NBA finals?
On another note do the lakers now have a cakewalk to the NBA finals?
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:27 am to RLDSC FAN
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On another note do the lakers now have a cakewalk to the NBA finals?
i don't see what the lakers did to really improve against the thunder
perkins is actually useful against dwight howard
nash is worse than even sessions on the perimeter. they're not going to be able to stop westbrook still
they still lack a perimeter defender to deal with durant
the lakers improved, but it won't be a "cake walk"
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:32 am to RLDSC FAN
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On another note do the lakers now have a cakewalk to the NBA finals?
yeah right, the thunder still has KD, Westbrook and Ibaka, if Martin stay's healthy, there won't be a huge drop off, not to mention Maynor is back. I don't see this as a huge problem for the Thunder. Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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it's going to happen eventually many of the new rules implemented to help the small market teams will destroy their ability to compete
Yep. That Hollinger article you quoted was spot on.
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also, a reasonable solution likely never will be developed until the concept of the "max" salary is abandoned
This and legit revenue sharing would cure many of the competitive balance issues that they claimed were the reason for the last lockout
This post was edited on 10/28/12 at 10:41 am
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:49 am to Brendoni
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Martin stay's healthy, there won't be a huge drop off
Enjoy watching k-mart for the first time...
quote:SFP- who will be on the market then?
2014 free agents
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:49 am to corndeaux
revenue sharing still won't work
the secondary/non-NBA benefits of playing in a big market will always exist, and the NBA can't do anything about that
also secondary media rights are a huge advantage of big market teams. the knicks have ungodly money b/c their owner owns the network that owns their local rights, and he makes piles from this
Not many teams will get this local deal that the Lakers got
non-NFL sports will always have trouble with evenly distributed revenue b/c there just isn't a big enough pie league-wide to divide up. it's easy in the NFL when they make so much goddamn money from their league-wide tv deals. it's a lot harder when these deals aren't possible (like the NBA and MLB)
the secondary/non-NBA benefits of playing in a big market will always exist, and the NBA can't do anything about that
also secondary media rights are a huge advantage of big market teams. the knicks have ungodly money b/c their owner owns the network that owns their local rights, and he makes piles from this
Not many teams will get this local deal that the Lakers got
non-NFL sports will always have trouble with evenly distributed revenue b/c there just isn't a big enough pie league-wide to divide up. it's easy in the NFL when they make so much goddamn money from their league-wide tv deals. it's a lot harder when these deals aren't possible (like the NBA and MLB)
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:51 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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Enjoy watching k-mart for the first time...
he's like monta ellis. a guy who shouldn't be starting but can be a GREAT bench scoring option
both just don't really work in a normal offense, but if you have a second unit that needs them to dominate the ball and score/pass, they can do it. kmart should do fine off the bench
hopefully he'll be able to save his glass body
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:martin is the type to score 14 in a qtr, but give up 16. Truly allergic to defense
both just don't really work in a normal offense, but if you have a second unit that needs them to dominate the ball and score/pass, they can do it. kmart should do fine off the bench
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:56 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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SFP- who will be on the market then?
CP3 and Josh Smith
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
SFP- what 2014 free agents should I start get excited about?
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:57 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:excitement level= low
CP3 and josh smith
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:57 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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martin is the type to score 14 in a qtr, but give up 16. Truly allergic to defense
1. harden isn't a good defender, either
2. martin actually was competent last year on defense, surprisingly
people forget that OKC has 2 offensive options in westbrook/durant, and then a bunch of defensive players until that 2nd unit comes in. a pure scorer is absolutely necessary or they suck fricking dick
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