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re: Harden Traded to the Rockets
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:58 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:58 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
we'll see, he was a starter at houston, now he'll be a bench player. he's avereages around 18 ppg, as a starter, so i dont' see it being a huge deal. people act like the thunder is going to fall of the face of the earth now that harden is gone, i just don't see it.
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Posted on 10/28/12 at 11:02 am to Brendoni
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people act like the thunder is going to fall of the face of the earth now that harden is gone, i just don't see it.
if lamb doesn't develop and martin won't take a haircut, they're going to have to get creative in FA next year
Posted on 10/28/12 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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if lamb doesn't
same can be said for perry jones, reggie jackson, and other players throughout the league. i trust presti, everyone thought it was a mistake to take westbrook as high as he did, same goes for harden, ibaka wasn't a high draft pick either. at the end of the day, KD, Westbrook and Ibaka are in for the long haul, as long as they are still here, OKC will be a in the hunt.
Posted on 10/28/12 at 11:13 am to Brendoni
if martin won't take a haircut and lamb doesn't develop, i think y'all will try to mid level a pure wing scoring option
there are always guys like jamal crawford or mo williams you can recycle
there are always guys like jamal crawford or mo williams you can recycle
Posted on 10/28/12 at 11:53 am to SlowFlowPro
Houston's hunt for a superstar for the past few years nets them 2 bench players as their "stars"
This post was edited on 10/28/12 at 11:54 am
Posted on 10/28/12 at 12:01 pm to Klark Kent
Harden has superstar potential. Coming off the bench in OKC doesn't make him a bench player, he's probably the best young 2 in league.
Posted on 10/28/12 at 12:04 pm to Boomshockalocka
If Gordon would ever be healthy, I think he's better than Harden. However, taking in to account Gordon's massive vagina, Harden is in a better spot.
Posted on 10/28/12 at 12:05 pm to Klark Kent
Stick to your NBA Live franchise mode threads on the Gaming Board.
This post was edited on 10/28/12 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 10/28/12 at 12:22 pm to hendersonshands
harden is basically a black version of manu ginobili
Posted on 10/28/12 at 1:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
When ESPN eventually puts out "Top 5 Reasons You Can't Blame Durant and Westbrook for not a Winning a Title in OKC", the reasons will be this:
1. Kendrick Perkins contract
2. Kendrick Perkins contract
3. Kendrick Perkins contract
4. Clay Bennett is a shitstain
5. Kendrick Perkins contract
1. Kendrick Perkins contract
2. Kendrick Perkins contract
3. Kendrick Perkins contract
4. Clay Bennett is a shitstain
5. Kendrick Perkins contract
Posted on 10/28/12 at 1:48 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Harden has superstar potential. Coming off the bench in OKC doesn't make him a bench player, he's probably the best young 2 in league.
smdh
Posted on 10/28/12 at 3:00 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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When ESPN eventually puts out "Top 5 Reasons You Can't Blame Durant and Westbrook for not a Winning a Title in OKC", the reasons will be this:
1. they didn't take a slight paycut to keep the team together
2. they didn't take a slight paycut to keep the team together
3. kendrick perkins' contract
4. they didn't take a slight paycut to keep the team together
Posted on 10/28/12 at 4:35 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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excitement level= low
josh smith is fricking awesome
Posted on 10/28/12 at 5:58 pm to mattz1122
season hasn't started yet and you are already sensitive to my ribbing?
Posted on 10/29/12 at 4:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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Martin spent much of 2011-12 as a spot-up shooter.
Not true. 22.5% of his offensive possessions were in iso last year. The previous year it was 25%. That is a fairly small difference. He was a spot up shooter 19.4% of the time last year. He spent more time in iso and pick and roll situations than as a spot up shooter. If he attacked the rim less it had very little to do with a system change. Maybe it was injuries, frustration with management and coaches, or just a complete fluke. But the system change should have had little effect on Martin's free throw attempts.
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that FT drop has nothing to do with a rule change and everything to do with a system change
Look, there is a reason why people were calling it the Kevin Martin rule. Anyone that had seen Martin play before last year knew that the rule change was going to hurt him. It isn't a coincidence that his free throw attempts dropped.
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the majority of his FTs came due to shot attempts at the rim. he lost more than 75% of his FTAs
Which had very little to do with the system change. Again, he ran iso almost as much in 11-12 as he did in 10-11.
Posted on 10/29/12 at 4:40 am to ZTiger87
After looking over some of the stats on synergy sports I like this trade a lot more for OKC than I initially did. Harden was the ball handler in pick and roll situations a lot last year. He was also really good at it. Martin was used far less in those situations, but he was just as effective. This preseason the Rockets were using Martin in a lot more pick and roll and he put up some great numbers.
I also think people are completely wrong about Martin needing the ball in his hands to be effective. While he is at his best in those situations, he is still great at moving without the ball and is a solid spot-up shooter. He should do really well in OKC, especially if he can get his free throw attempts back up.
No he wasn't. He was terrible. .94 points allowed per possession is god awful. Few players allowed more. Going by drtg, Martin was tied for 377th.
I also think people are completely wrong about Martin needing the ball in his hands to be effective. While he is at his best in those situations, he is still great at moving without the ball and is a solid spot-up shooter. He should do really well in OKC, especially if he can get his free throw attempts back up.
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martin actually was competent last year on defense, surprisingly
No he wasn't. He was terrible. .94 points allowed per possession is god awful. Few players allowed more. Going by drtg, Martin was tied for 377th.
Posted on 10/29/12 at 6:04 am to Boomshockalocka
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Harden has superstar potential. Coming off the bench in OKC doesn't make him a bench player, he's probably the best young 2 in league.
There is a huge difference in coming off the bench for a few mins and starting every night.
But best two in the league?
Posted on 4/12/13 at 10:15 pm to mattz1122
Autoban
Posted on 4/12/13 at 10:55 pm to Broski
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Posted by Broski on 10/27 at 9:56 pm to CP3LSU25
This is very good for the Hornets...this makes the Rockets significantly worse for years to come. Harden is an upgrade over Martin, but not by as much as people make it seem. Giving up a young prospect in Lamb and other future picks was Morey being an idiot as usual.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 10:58 pm to PortCityTiger24
Yeah that was a dumb post.
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