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re: Halladay likely to Phillies (MLB Network)
Posted on 7/24/09 at 4:42 pm to lsu xman
Posted on 7/24/09 at 4:42 pm to lsu xman
Hey I am a big believer in trading an unknown for a known product....
it just sucks arse if that unknown ends up becoming a superstar
I would do it though, Halladay on that team (if he can handle pressure) would give them upper hand in any series.
it just sucks arse if that unknown ends up becoming a superstar
I would do it though, Halladay on that team (if he can handle pressure) would give them upper hand in any series.
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Posted on 7/24/09 at 4:43 pm to BigBoyTiger
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I think Drabek is awesome. He clearly knows how to pitch.
He's overrated.
He's very good, but some people are making him out to be a top 5 or 10 prospect in all of baseball and he's not THAT good.
Since his promotion to AA, ALL of his stats have gone down.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 4:45 pm to LfcSU3520
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until you do it in the big leagues, nobody has an idea of how to pitch.
ahhhhhh what do you know? clay buchholz's AAA stats are FIYA
Posted on 7/24/09 at 4:47 pm to supatigah
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ahhhhhh what do you know? clay buchholz's AAA stats are FIYA
I just lol'd
Posted on 7/24/09 at 4:48 pm to 1ranter1
wait i thought we were talking about doug drabek
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:03 pm to 1ranter1
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He's overrated.
He's very good, but some people are making him out to be a top 5 or 10 prospect in all of baseball and he's not THAT good.
Since his promotion to AA, ALL of his stats have gone down.
what? You're strictly guessing.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:03 pm to TxTiger25
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R-E-TARDED for the Phillies. Why sell your farm system for 1 guy a year after you won the World Series and are ahead by like 9 games in your division?
Not R-E-TARDED for the Phillies. They giving prospects for a proven commmodity..Not only is he proven but is one of the top 3 pitchers in the league. They are not renting either, they get him the rest of this yr and next(and may be able to resign him). With that lineup and with Hamels and Halladay they can win this yr and next. They are not playin to win divisions, the Phillies are trying to win Championships.
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1 guy that can play every 5th game.
He can single handely win 2 games out of a 7 game series by himself.
FWIW with Halladay they become the definite favs in the NL.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:05 pm to CM84
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He can single handely win 2 games out of a 7 game series by himself.
FWIW with Halladay they become the definite favs in the NL.
iirc Happ has been a stud this year.
and he'd be tied up for five more years. Hamels and Happ? Pretty solid.
Not saying this is a bad deal, but it's an awful lot to give up
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:07 pm to LfcSU3520
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and he'd be tied up for five more years.
I was wondering about that. It six years from when they hit the majors, correct?
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:11 pm to supatigah
ship buchholz, jd drew, and lowell for Halladay.. 
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:13 pm to ProjectP2294
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I was wondering about that. It six years from when they hit the majors, correct?
no, after you have six full years of service time.
So technically, the Phillies have him for six years after this season.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:14 pm to lsu xman
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ship buchholz, jd drew, and lowell for Halladay..
drugs are bad
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:14 pm to lsu xman
yea that is who they want lowell and drew
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:16 pm to LfcSU3520
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no, after you have six full years of service time.
So technically, the Phillies have him for six years after this season.
Good deal, thanks for clarifying.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:25 pm to LfcSU3520
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what? You're strictly guessing.
No he is giving up more hits, homers, his ERA is higher, his WHIP is higher, he is getting less ground balls, and most importantly his SO/9 has gone down by 4 per 9 innings.
This post was edited on 7/24/09 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:25 pm to ProjectP2294
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Hamels and Happ? Pretty solid.
Yea its solid.. but I dont think u can compare it to Halladay and Hamels in a 7 game series.
Your telling me Happ is goin to be better or as good as Halladay? (Especially this yr or next)
Potential and prospects get u fired
This post was edited on 7/24/09 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:28 pm to 1ranter1
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No he is giving up more hits, homers, his ERA is higher, his WHIP is higher, he is getting less ground balls, and most importantly his SO/9 has gone down by 4 per 9 innings.
and how old is he?
just so you know, looking at minor league numbers for making an evaluation is really pointless.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:30 pm to CM84
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Your telling me Happ is goin to be better or as good as Halladay? (Especially this yr or next)
I don't know. Nobody does.
But solid starting left handed pitching is a high commodity, and having two on a staff is nuts.
Drabek I can see trading...but Happ is a tough one for me. I think Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball bar none, but again he's somewhat of a rental player as it stands.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:31 pm to CM84
Happ has been >>>>> Hamels this year.
They should have sent Hamels and Drabek.
They should have sent Hamels and Drabek.
Posted on 7/24/09 at 5:32 pm to LfcSU3520
He is 21, so he isn't playing above his level. And most stats in the minors aren't telling, his 6 SO/9 and raised fly ball rates are not good signs. He is a top 25 prospect, but he certainly isn't untradeable.
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