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re: Guess which NBA PG shot 25 free throws last night?

Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:59 am to
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:59 am to
It's all good. NBA will decide what they want.

The Wemby rise is happening.

The Luka PRIME is here...

They will choose when they want to get those guys their flowers.
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:00 am to
With all that being said,

The Lakers play the Thunder twice in a the next 10 days?

We'll get a great sample size of who should win League MVP...
Posted by Contra
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:06 am to
Haters gonna hate

Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:01 pm to
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Can you take SGA and put him on Sacramento? and they are a 50+ win team?


(SAC is 19-57 currently, that's why I am using them as an example)


Bro what? Are you subtly hinting at SAC being a 50+ win team if they Wemby? News flash: they wouldn't with either. They'd have probably 10 more wins with Wemby and 15 more wins with SGA.

Not sure what we're doing here
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 12:05 pm
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:38 pm to
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Whereas, if you sub off SGA or if SGA is playing or not, OKC continues to do what they have built... its a great system and it allows smaller market teams to thrive no matter if they have a star or not on their teams...



Simply not true. SGA has best clutch rate in history. Without him those wins are losses.

And to illustrate his importance, in the Detroit game 2nd half all OKC players except SGA had 33 points. SGA had 30 by himself (woulda been 33 but he fouled on last play). Detroit was up 87-80 and in comes SGA and they go up 88-87. His importance is way understated. Data shows his value time after time.

Also to note, SGA played with so many costars out this year. OKC has the 2nd most lost injury games of all 30 teams.

They do have a great roster but like all rosters it has some flaws.
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 1:40 pm
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 9:12 am to
SGA goes (0-2) vs Luka in their H2H matchups to close the season...

how does that fare in the race?
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 9:21 am to
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Simply not true. SGA has best clutch rate in history. Without him those wins are losses.


Aren't they like 8-4 without him this year? That's still a 54 win pace. Now do I think they'd be 54 wins, probably not, but they're still a play in team at minimum without him - they're still a net positive 5 rating team in the 1500 minutes he's off the court.

You can't say the same with the spurs, nuggets, or Lakers.
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 9:24 am
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 9:40 am to
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You can't say the same with the spurs, nuggets, or Lakers.


agree
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 12:22 pm to
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You can't say the same with the spurs, nuggets, or Lakers.


Have you crunched those numbers like you did Shai’s?
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 1:07 pm to
They went 5-4 during his most recent abdominal pain absence. Something else you need to look at is the opponents and how many key players they had out. Were they vs full strength or weaker rosters.

Mainly you are trying too hard to discredit SGA. If as you claim his teammates are so super duper great while he’s out then explain how SGA is able to average over 31 pts per game and have the best clutch rate in history. With so many co- stars he would never get as many shots or take over in crunch time since all would want the ball.

I’ve seen every possible reason to try and tear him down. He’s the perfect player for what fans claim they want. He does not score many of his points from 3. He drives and works hard for midrange shots which is what fans want more of from NBA (less 3’s).

And because he has the highest drive rate that means he has the highest exposure if defenders in close contact trying to stop him. So he’ll get more foul calls from that extra defensive contact. Its common sense but people hate any small market team doing well and taking from the big markets.

He’s that good and will go down as one of the greats once his career wraps up. I posted a rare thread a few or weeks ago about another player getting so many FTs (Doncic) and everyone tried to justify it saying it was legit. Then SGA gets a rare 20+ FT night and same posters claim its all crap. Thats how you know its agenda not fact based posting.

There really isn’t any decent NBA tall here which is a shame because there are some great fans of all sports posting here. But when it comes to SGA its complete opposite and there will never be any good actual discussion, only posters working hard to discredit anything. And most of them claim they stop watching NBA but are in every NBA thread.

I’ve been looking for an NBA specific board to post on but those are hard to come by. And this place even though it has some NBA is really just haters of the sport. I love all the other sports here but NBA brings out the worst in posters it seems.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 3:27 pm to
spot on
Posted by Splackavellie
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 4:06 pm to
In OKCs last two games vs Det and NY, SGA has attempted 41 free throws combined.




Together, in those games, Det and NY have attempted a total of 40.

Some things never change.
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 4:09 pm
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 8:20 pm to
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They went 5-4 during his most recent abdominal pain absence. Something else you need to look at is the opponents and how many key players they had out. Were they vs full strength or weaker rosters.


A 500 win team is a play in team, like I alluded too. I'm not discrediting him, he makes them championship caliber - there is 0 denial to that.

quote:

Mainly you are trying too hard to discredit SGA. If as you claim his teammates are so super duper great while he’s out then explain how SGA is able to average over 31 pts per game and have the best clutch rate in history. With so many co- stars he would never get as many shots or take over in crunch time since all would want the ball.


This is the boom mental gymnastics of using clutch rate to defend said player.

quote:

He’s the perfect player for what fans claim they want.


No he's not. He foul baits. I even think luka does it quite often and I personally think it's an atrocious style of play.


All I'm pointing out is as a team - if you remove said best player okc is easily the best when you consider the 1500+ minutes off the court. That's a large sample (nearly 30 whole games)
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 8:50 pm to
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Some things never change.


Yeah you’d have to go back an entire week and in three games combined he had 16 fta.
Posted by Splackavellie
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 9:01 pm to
And still averages the most per minute played.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:15 pm to
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I guess MJ's final shot in '98 shoulda been an offensive foul right?


It was
Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:17 pm to
You sure bout that?
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 6:39 am to
What a shooting display.

Again… scroll up you’ll see where i mention the “system” and what okc has built.

You’ll also see the comment made by another poster on the 5 out offense scheme…

You can just play against some average guys on a random Thursday and when they are hitting, it really is irrelevant who you have on the floor against them.


Dort 14 points in the 1Q - 4/4 from 3 - 14 pts

Joe 20 pts 6-8 from 3

Wallace and Mitchell each had 2 3s a piece…


That’s 14 3s just from random role players…

Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:27 am to
SGA received 88 of 100 1st place votes in the last MVP straw poll of the season.

He received 9 2nd place votes. And somehow 3 voters had him 3rd.

SGA could enter rare NBA air. Only 13 players have ever won back to back MVPs.

The list of players to win back to back NBA MVPs:

Russell
Wilt
Kareem
Moses
Bird
Magic
MJ
Duncan
Nash
LeBron
Curry
Giannis
Jokic
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