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re: Greatest 3rd baseman of all-time
Posted on 6/18/12 at 4:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 6/18/12 at 4:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
It's hard to debate this when I haven't seen Brooks Robinson play. He had impressive numbers though. It's also hard to debate it when I've seen Schmidt and the likes of Brett play, but at the end of their careers. The only guys that I've seen a full career from are Chipper and A-Rod. Otherwise, I'm just debating overall numbers, and if that's the case, then it's MJS, GB, BR, AR, and CJ.
This post was edited on 6/18/12 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 6/18/12 at 4:48 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Depends on how you define over rated. I
I just think Rose was a VERY important part of every team he played for and was the spark that kept the Big Red Machine going when they were so good. BTW Stats don't mean EVERYTHING. His leadership skills and overall way he played helped inspire his team. I mean A-ROD has some great stats but he is not close to the leader or play-by-example player Rose was.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 4:55 pm to dukke v
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Is Nolan Ryan overated????????????
Absolutely. He is a great pitcher, but is closer to #20 than #1. Sure, he had a ton of Ks, but he is also #1 in walks, was barely .500 W/L, and ranks like #244 alltime in ERA. You always know when people are overrating him too, because they'll be like "but he whipped Robin Ventura's arse".
Posted on 6/18/12 at 4:58 pm to Tiger in NY
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Sure, he had a ton of Ks, but he is also #1 in walks, was barely .500 W/L, and ranks like #244 alltime in ERA
AGREED. He was fun to watch cause he had the ability to do something SPECIAL every time he pitched, But he could also get ripped apart. Not many pitchers can say this.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 5:21 pm to dukke v
I'll take Michael Jack Schmidt
Posted on 6/18/12 at 5:36 pm to TigerintheNO
Schmidt is the easy pick here. Maybe the easiest position to pick the greatest of all time.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 5:49 pm to Nashty
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Maybe the easiest position to pick the greatest of all time.
NOPE. That would be Centerfield.
Wille Mays. NO CONTEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 6/18/12 at 5:58 pm to Nashty
quote:absolutely
Schmidt is the easy pick here. Maybe the easiest position to pick the greatest of all time
Posted on 6/18/12 at 6:08 pm to tigerblood29
I've never seen anyone rate Pete rose as a top 3 player of all time. I've always felt he was properly ranked.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 6:39 pm to TigerintheNO
1. Brooks Robinson
2. Mike Schmidt
3. George Brett
2. Mike Schmidt
3. George Brett
Posted on 6/18/12 at 6:46 pm to shifty94
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1. Brooks Robinson
2. Mike Schmidt
3. George Brett
Brooks d is of NO question. A GREAT GREAT player. But I have watched all three and the answer is Mike, George, and then Brooks. IF you just want to talk fielding??? The answer is Robinson by a landslide.People will bitch about this, But Brooks Robinson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ozzie Smith.DEAL WITH IT. I SAW IT HAPPEN.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 6:49 pm to dukke v
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IF you just want to talk fielding??? The answer is Robinson by a landslide.People will bitch about this, But Brooks Robinson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ozzie Smith.DEAL WITH IT. I SAW IT HAPPEN.
People in this thread are underrating Schmidt's D. He was an 11 time Gold Glove winner, and easily the best defensive 3B of the last 30 years. And while you are talking about overrated players PJ, Ozzie is right up there with the best of them. Vizquel's glove>>>>>>than Ozzie's FACT!!!!!!
This post was edited on 6/18/12 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 6/18/12 at 6:53 pm to Tiger in NY
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People in this thread are underrating Schmidt's D. He was an 11 time Gold Glove winner, and easily the best defensive 3B of the last 30 years.
I AGREE. Thats why there is NO question here about who is the best 3b of all-time.

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And while you are talking about overrated players PJ, Ozzie is right up there with the best of them.
Shorstops are for tomorrow.

My answer WILL suprise you.

Posted on 6/18/12 at 6:57 pm to dukke v
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My answer WILL suprise you
Jeter? LOL.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 6:58 pm to dukke v
I think Clemente was/is actually a bit underrated. He still played in an era where blacks and latinos were rarely put on the pedestal.
He had some great years that go sort of unrecognized. His MVP year, he had a low in batting average for the previous 5 seasons. Granted, his power numbers were up.
But yes, due to his tragic death, I think people who don't know baseball all that well will overrate him. In the grand scheme of things, I think he should be rated higher.
He had some great years that go sort of unrecognized. His MVP year, he had a low in batting average for the previous 5 seasons. Granted, his power numbers were up.
But yes, due to his tragic death, I think people who don't know baseball all that well will overrate him. In the grand scheme of things, I think he should be rated higher.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 6:58 pm to Tiger in NY
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Schmidt's D. He was an 11 time Gold Glove winner, and easily the best defensive 3B of the last 30 years.
Ever hard of Eric Chavez?
Posted on 6/18/12 at 7:04 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Ever hard of Eric Chavez?
Are you saying that Eric Chavez is a better defensive 3B than Schmidt? You mean the Eric Chavez who has all of 6 GGs (not that GG is the only standard of defensive excellence or anything). I don't see it.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 7:07 pm to TexasTiger08
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But yes, due to his tragic death, I think people who don't know baseball all that well will overrate him. In the grand scheme of things, I think he should be rated higher.
He had 3,000 hits. How can ANYONE UNDERATE THIS.

Posted on 6/18/12 at 7:08 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Schmidt's D. He was an 11 time Gold Glove winner, and easily the best defensive 3B of the last 30 years.
Ever hard of Eric Chavez?
Just GO AWAY..........................
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