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re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the New York Yankees
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:37 pm to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:37 pm to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Shoemaker, Richards, Ohtani, Skaggs, Heaney, Bridwell, Jesse Chavez, JC Ramirez?
Hell not sure how that will play out, they need Richards healthy
Hell not sure how that will play out, they need Richards healthy
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:44 pm to tduecen
None of those guys impress me other than Ohtani. Darvish, Arietta, or Lynn would make a lot of sense.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:48 pm to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Richards if healthy is the ace, however, he hasn't been healthy since 2015
Shoemaker is a midrotation guy
Ohtani would be the #2 I guess
Bidwell is a young guy who showed promise last year
Rest would just be innings eaters so Lynn would make sense unless they don't believe Richards will come back healthy.
Shoemaker is a midrotation guy
Ohtani would be the #2 I guess
Bidwell is a young guy who showed promise last year
Rest would just be innings eaters so Lynn would make sense unless they don't believe Richards will come back healthy.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:52 pm to tduecen
The Angels lineup is still rather underwhelming if you ask me. Trout is the best all-around player in baseball but the rest of it aside from Ohtani is pretty meh. Upton is a good player but he’s very inconsistent.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 2:55 pm to Peter Venkman
Simmons had a hell of a year last year
Calhoun and Cron needs to hit like like they did in 2016 and then the lineup is a lot better.
Calhoun and Cron needs to hit like like they did in 2016 and then the lineup is a lot better.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 4:50 pm to tduecen
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Wait a 2 WAR 2B is worth nothing to you?
His WAR is artificially inflated by Yankee stadium and his improbable 20 homers.
His projection is only about 1.2 WAR. Since he plays poor defense and doesn't walk. Plus he is owed 24 million dollars for the next 2 years.
So very little trade value
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 12/9/17 at 4:59 pm to UltimaParadox
quote:Well hell, never trade for a Yankees, Rockies, Astros player because their stadiums artificially inflate stats....
His WAR is artificially inflated by Yankee stadium and his improbable 20 homers.
quote:plays fairly average defense actually.... not good but no he isn't going to win a GG
Since he plays poor defense
quote:Oh a projection got ya....
His projection is only about 1.2 WAR.
quote:Wait 12 million a year is a lot for a 2B to you?
Plus he is owed 24 million dollars for the next 2 years.
He has posted 2.3, 1.7, 1.3, and 2.7 WAR over the past 4 years so yea he is about a 2WAR player still.
Look Castro is not a great player he is an average player because of the walks and he quit stealing bases. He doesn't bring defensive value but he isn't going to hurt either. Marlins will trade him for a couple of prospects but none will be elite
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:05 pm to tduecen
Those same projections have Stanton having an absolutely monster 2018, and Judge/Sanchez having another great season.
So I'm down.
So I'm down.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:16 pm to tduecen
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Well hell, never trade for a Yankees, Rockies, Astros player because their stadiums artificially inflate stats....
When you a hit a bunch of homers that are barely enough, that is why his projections are so low
quote:
plays fairly average defense actually.... not good but no he isn't going to win a GG
He is below average. DRS and UZR/150 all well below average since moving last two years.
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Oh a projection got ya....
What do you think teams use to value players in a trade?
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Wait 12 million a year is a lot for a 2B to you?
He has posted 2.3, 1.7, 1.3, and 2.7 WAR over the past 4 years so yea he is about a 2WAR player still.
Where you getting your WAR values from? Last 5 years
Fangraphs: 1.9, 1.1, 0.8, 2.8, 0.1
Basebaell-Ref: 2.0, 1.3, 0.7, 2.1, -0.4
Even if we are generous and say 1.5, a WAR is worth about 6-8 million dollars on the open market. AT best he is paid market rate.
For a team like the Marlins he really has no value, but they had to take him on to offset the salary for the Yankees. But as far a trade value goes... he wont get much at all.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:20 pm to UltimaParadox
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Basebaell-Ref: 2.0, 1.3, 0.7, 2.1, -0.4
Was looking at his offensive/defensive war on baseball reference, my bad on that part.
Considering the Marlins just traded their 2B he has value, however, they will move him probably to the Mets. I stated he will not command a top prospect but he should net 1 average guy and then some low level player.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:23 pm to tduecen
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Considering the Marlins just traded their 2B he has value, however, they will move him probably to the Mets. I stated he will not command a top prospect but he should net 1 average guy and then some low level player.
I agree... they will move him probably trying to dump the salary.
Even with new ownership.. they are cheap bastards.
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