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re: Former Deadspin editor, Barry Petchesky, speaks for the first time since being fired

Posted on 11/11/19 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 5:11 pm to
Pretending they are covering politics because it's somehow fundamental to sports is patently dishonest because their political coverage is 100% advocating and advancing left wing political propaganda.

If they actually presented multiple arguments and angles with neutrality then they could claim some sort of journalistic calling.

Instead they want to just vomit out ORANGE MAN BAD! at every turn.

It's clear they are activists, not journalists.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11148 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 5:13 pm to
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Reporting sports with integrity requires knowing that there’s no way to wall off the games from the world outside.


No jackass. Most people gravitate towards sports to escape the world outside.

Welders, lawyers, truck drivers, bankers, Republicans, Democrats, etc. can come together to cheer their favorite team.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 5:14 pm to
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Deadspin was the voice of the long-suffering fan, finding the humor and the heartbreak in everything in the world of sports. It was the fan wondering why he was paying $200 to go to a football game to watch a team whose owner would rather pocket profit than pay to improve the roster


bullshite. Deadspin was a bunch of myopic pricks who acted like it was NYC’s birthright to take all your city’s best players and then act like we’re supposed to pity you because the Knicks, Jets and Mets STILL suck.

Cry me a fricking river. Good riddance.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79119 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 5:18 pm to
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These people are just so damn unlikeable.



I'll say upfront that there are plenty of reasons to dislike the GOP/conservatives in 2019 America. But I'd propose that the tiebreaker argument they have is the pure misery and hopelessness that seems to surround these elitist SJW types like Petchesky.

It invades every area of life. Music, art, sports. If you're a minority, you're oppressed and hated so you should hate everyone. If you're in the majority, you're a no-good oppressor and you should hate yourself. Everyone is a villain unless you're so self-loathing that you temporarily become a hero, at which point we'll find some old tweet you made and ruin your life.

You really can't overstate how much these people suck
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 5:19 pm to
Watching the Digital Media apocalypse the past few years has been glorious.

The whole lot of them a bunch of pretentious, self important, entitled Manhattan trash.

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 5:35 pm to
Agreed
It really is a shite hole
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35448 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 5:44 pm to
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Reporting sports with integrity requires knowing that there’s no way to wall off the games from the world outside. To anyone who knows anything about sports or cares about the world outside the arena, the notion that sports should or even can be covered merely by box scores and transaction wires is absurd.



Well they did it from the 1920's-1960's - so I guess it's sorta possible.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4466 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 6:07 pm to
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He couldnt report sports like it was always covered. All the sudden it cant jut be sports. Good Riddance


This makes no sense. Deadspin operated the same way from its beginning to when Barry was fired and everyone quit. The editors at Deadspin worked to make the site different than ESPN, SI, SBNation, and the myriad of sports clickbait farms. Sure, the writers and editors injected their own opinions into the stories which probably clashed with some of the posters of the MSB and Tigerdroppings, but what they did worked and made money.

Clicks never dropped off, advertisers didn't stop buying ads. Deadspin was profitable until Jim Spanfeller decided to fire Barry and lost all of the writers on the payroll. Paul Maidment, the G/O Media exec who took over EIC duties after everyone quit, lasted one weekend before quitting the company. G/O Media screwed up real bad by thinking it could change Deadspin into something "marketable" to make a quick sale & profit by squeezing operating costs and making it as vanilla as possible.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118943 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 6:20 pm to
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the notion that sports should or even can be covered merely by box scores and transaction wires is absurd.


Really? It used to be before it became politicized.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15320 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 6:36 pm to
Its a pretty simple equation.... the majority of US professional sports fans are conservative...if your shite doesn't align with that, good riddance.

You are fooling yourself if you think this has anything to do with merely not sticking to a box score. People love opinions (politics and sports related), they just love opinions that align with their own even more.

This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 6:38 pm
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 6:48 pm to
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Its a pretty simple equation.... the majority of US professional sports fans are conservative...if your shite doesn't align with that, good riddance.


I think there are probably more conservatives who are big into sports than left wingers, but the truth is the vast majority of people, do not want politics of any kind in their sports coverage.

I'm a big pro Trump guy but if ever single sports article somehow turned into a pro-Trump piece I'd find it cute for a little while but then very annoying.

Sports is entertainment fundamentally. Most entertainment involves escapism. People do not watch tv or go to the movies or go to a concert or watch a sporting event to get lectured.

I watched ESPN for about 20 years (let's say 1990 to 2010) and there was barely a shred of politics of any kind noticeable. Then all the sudden out of nowhere every other segment or article involved some sort of left wing social cause. The injecting of politics into EVERYTHING (sports, video games, comic books, whatever) is something that has gone into absolute hypderive the past decade and anyone who says otherwise is f'ing lying.

This was not done because the market wanted it, it was done because left wing activists wormed their way into positions of power and then made it happen.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 6:50 pm to
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This makes no sense. Deadspin operated the same way from its beginning to when Barry was fired and everyone quit.


No, it changed big time into a whiny political site from a snarky little offbeat sports site.

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Clicks never dropped off, advertisers didn't stop buying ads. Deadspin was profitable until Jim Spanfeller decided to fire Barry


How do you figure? They had to run auto play video ads bc they were so bad off. They didn't make changes cause they were being too successful.
Posted by 4quartaBamaball
Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Nov 2015
1619 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 6:53 pm to
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Clicks never dropped off,


I stopped clicking?
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
11712 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 6:58 pm to
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No, it changed big time into a whiny political site from a snarky little offbeat sports site.


No shite. They used to call geno auremma a pussy for coaching women’s basketball. 0% chance they would’ve written something that demeaning to women’s sports this year.

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How do you figure? They had to run auto play video ads bc they were so bad off. They didn't make changes cause they were being too successful.


Nah dude employees who worked at deadspin said they were profitable so they are. Spanfellar is just being a hater
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4466 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 7:10 pm to
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Its a pretty simple equation.... the majority of US professional sports fans are conservative...if your shite doesn't align with that, good riddance.


So someone or some company shouldn't try to make as much money off of the non-conservative sports fans? If you take something that is profitable and turn it into just another player in a contracting market, you don't know know to run that business.

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You are fooling yourself if you think this has anything to do with merely not sticking to a box score. People love opinions (politics and sports related), they just love opinions that align with their own even more.


Again, the facts say otherwise. Some of the most high-traffic stories on Deadspin did not "stick to sports". The 2017 Hater's Guide to the Williams Sonoma Catalog had over 1.2 million clicks and had nothing to do with sports. How America's Largest Local TV Owner Turned Its News Anchors Into Soldiers In Trump's War On The Media had over 1.6 million views and had nothing to do with sports. Deadspin made money through its site traffic with blog posts like these and more.

"If you don't like it, don't read it" is something I see here all the time. It appears many people frequented the site for things beyond sports. Even their own analytics department (how they sell ad space) showed non-sports posts had, on average, double the traffic of sports posts. If anything, the argument can be made that Deadspin was better at not sticking to sports than it was sticking merely to sports.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61117 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 7:16 pm to
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. It was the fan wondering why he was paying $200 to go to a football game to watch a team whose owner would rather pocket profit than pay to improve the roster.



You mean people are pissed a sports franchise owner isnt spending more money on sports?
Just think, he could be spending that money on healthcare for illegal immigrants!
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4466 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 7:21 pm to
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How do you figure? They had to run auto play video ads bc they were so bad off. They didn't make changes cause they were being too successful.


You do realize the marketing department and editors/content department operate separately, right? The autoplay ads were in response to overselling promises to advertisers, which if anything is an indication of how G/O Media management didn't understand or care to run things correctly. Hell, G/O Media even publicly announced they made a quarterly profit in September 2019 and expected to make a revenue similar to the $80 million in revenue the company made last year.

Owner of Deadspin, The Onion Says Media Group Is Now Profitable
Posted by Notro
Alison Brie's Boobs
Member since Sep 2011
7880 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 8:33 pm to
Oh Barry.......



Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20063 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 8:43 pm to
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