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Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:26 pm to TigahRag
shite if I were a DJ at guaranty for one of their music stations I'd begin to get pretty nervous, seems most are starting to go towards these Ryan Seacrest mini syndicated shows to fill a little air time in between songs, that has to cut the shite out of some over head.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:32 pm to Kafka
a LARGE number of the sports talk radio stations in this country are just running ESPN, Fox Sports Radio, or Sporting News Radio round the clock .. it costs them nothing and all they have to do guarantee a certain percentage of the network's national advertising spots run on the station .. throw in a local or regional college or pro team that usually gives its programming to the station for free with the same arrangement that they can sell local spots on and one possible local drive time local call in show and you just described 85% of the sports stations in the united states ... local sports talk shows are dying .. because they cost money and rarely make money .... apples to oranges ..
This post was edited on 1/1/12 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
where can Songy bring his show and how in the hell does he get that message out to his old listening base?
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
you are talking about him having to negotiate an air time rate all over again .. in a day and age when a station almost needs to bill $40,000 to $70,000 a month just to break even and pay the bills .. i would think he would be paying about five times what he was paying under his old deal .. i.e. .. no way he can sell the advertising to cover that nut .. you have to see the arbitron books on sports talk radio shows .. they barely show up at all .. this is what the big boys buy off of .. without the big $2500K and above a month whales .. you just won't make it ..
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:35 pm to BilJ
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and how in the hell does he get that message out to his old listening base?
well i meant to include this, but finding bigfoot got my attention
and are there any other AM stations that have slots to buy?
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:36 pm to BilJ
oh yeah .. i agree .. i can't believe these stations still employ board ops in the age of computerization .. i dunno why these hosts didn't just run their own boards ..
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:37 pm to TigahRag
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. i would think he would be paying about five times what he was paying under his old deal
if you're right then forget what i just said
how did 1210 get away with such a sweetheart deal for this long is then my new questions
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:38 pm to TigahRag
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i dunno why these hosts didn't just run their own boards ..
i actually thought about this when doing the show. you need a 2-man show to do it just so 1 can get the caller's info and put him on hold, though
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
no .. how did the hosts get away with such sweet heart deals for so long ?? the stations were only making their air time fees off of their two and three hour windows ... where the hosts fricked up is that they all acted selfishly at times and didn't worry about the overall financial viability of the station .. it is a lot like a store in a shopping mall that is just killing it every month .. but if the mall itself is losing money and has to close, then it does them no good ..
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i actually thought about this when doing the show. you need a 2-man show to do it just so 1 can get the caller's info and put him on hold, though
bingo !! get a two-man show .. one runs the board and have two guys on the streets selling advertising .. why all of these guys insisted on working alone and having shows by themselves all these years are just mysteries .. it was just all about egos .. once again .. you have to feel sorry for them losing their gigs and potential livelihoods .. but if they didn't see this coming eventually, they were just dumb ..
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
What I find interesting... (and this isn't the only example)...
is that an industry (sports talk radio, etc) that makes its living off of advertising, which business owners invest many dollars on a piece of their business which the returns are very subjective... the industry itself doesn't.
How many people in BR do you think would've listened to 1210 IF they knew it existed?
When was the last time you heard a commercial advertising BR sports programming?
is that an industry (sports talk radio, etc) that makes its living off of advertising, which business owners invest many dollars on a piece of their business which the returns are very subjective... the industry itself doesn't.
How many people in BR do you think would've listened to 1210 IF they knew it existed?
When was the last time you heard a commercial advertising BR sports programming?
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:48 pm to TigahRag
This is actually an interesting topic for those like me who don't know how this stuff works at all.
What is the additional costs to the station for shows where they sell air time to hosts? For example, if a station was going to have 1 local show and pick up the rest from a national source (ESPN/Fox,etc.),would it costs them more to pick up another 2 or so local shows? I guess it's a fixed costs or extra costs thing?
What is the additional costs to the station for shows where they sell air time to hosts? For example, if a station was going to have 1 local show and pick up the rest from a national source (ESPN/Fox,etc.),would it costs them more to pick up another 2 or so local shows? I guess it's a fixed costs or extra costs thing?
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:49 pm to TigahRag
Well who was the genius behind the all local all day idea? Seems that probably really drive costs up, especially giving condon a salary.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:50 pm to Grassy1
that is what 104.5 is ..
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:50 pm to BilJ
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especially giving condon a salary.
i really never got this
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yeah. Condon was the one guy I couldn't really listen to more than a couple of minutes a time.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
I remember josh on here claiming he was going to be the game changer and save 1210, he ended up being one of its biggest anchors.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
Without Songy spewing his nonsense how are the chicken little sheeple gonna know that Les is meddling in the playbook?
Honestly I got pissed at them many times over the past few years and finally quit listening because of moronic negative callers. Still I hope they land on their feet and Jordy gets back on the air soon. Also Landry, I liked to hear his opinion too.
Honestly I got pissed at them many times over the past few years and finally quit listening because of moronic negative callers. Still I hope they land on their feet and Jordy gets back on the air soon. Also Landry, I liked to hear his opinion too.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:56 pm to BilJ
Condon and Jordy were on salary .. the local hosts/independent contractors model is incredibly antiquated and ties your revenue hands behind your back ..
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