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re: Fifteen Houston- area HS football coaches make at least $100k
Posted on 7/19/16 at 3:16 pm to McCaigBro69
Posted on 7/19/16 at 3:16 pm to McCaigBro69
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If teachers brought in an actual revenue stream to the schools instead of bitching about it after they knew exactly the pay bracket they'd likely be sitting in until they retired then I'm sure they'd be paid better. They'd officially be more of an asset. Why should anyone in any place of work, whether it's a school, business or non-profit be paid more for bringing in less revenue? Straight teacher's are paid less because they work nine months out of the year, roughly and decide to show a freaking movie to the class on two Fridays out of every month.
The Dallas ISD alone brought in over $1.3 Billon last school year. Not because of football games or any other spectator event. Your football revenue is a drop in the bucket.
Category 2015-16
Current Taxes $ 925,556,154
Delinquent Taxes $ 6,700,000
Taxes-Penalties & Interest $ 7,500,000
Investment Earnings $ 2,000,000
Rental Income $ 1,200,000
Miscellaneous Revenue $ 5,218,184
Athletic Gate Revenue $ 720,000
Total Local $ 948,894,338
So 99.99944% of revenue came from non-sports revenue. If you think that any of that happens without the teachers in classroom then...
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 3:50 pm
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 3:20 pm to SaturdayTraditions
Lol whatever man.
If we're being honest, there isn't a single thing that I learned in high school that I use in the real world or in my profession.
I can sit here and say without question that I learned more life lessons and how to be successful through sports than I ever did in any class room.
To each their own though.
If we're being honest, there isn't a single thing that I learned in high school that I use in the real world or in my profession.
I can sit here and say without question that I learned more life lessons and how to be successful through sports than I ever did in any class room.
To each their own though.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 3:32 pm to McCaigBro69
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Lol whatever man. If we're being honest, there isn't a single thing that I learned in high school that I use in the real world or in my profession.
You have a job that doesn't use math? Where you don't have to read, or type, or form sentences? Where you aren't required to meet deadlines, or follow rules? You get through each day without preforming any of these tasks? What kind of job is this that you have?
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I can sit here and say without question that I learned more life lessons and how to be successful through sports than I ever did in any class room. To each their own though.
I don't doubt that sports have helped you, but to minimize the effect that teachers had on your life and where you are at now is just downright irresponsible. Not one single person on this thread has stated that sports should be abolished or that they aren't a wonderful outlet for teaching life lessons. You have made statements in this thread that are absurd and have had them refuted multiple times, only to change your argument to try to fit your narrative. If you have an opinion, that is fine. However, when your opinion is brought into question, it is best not to grasp at straws in order to make yourself seem smart.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 4:07 pm to SaturdayTraditions
I would imagine that the schools keep a majority of the gate and send a portion to the county so your number is off. My school brings in 200K from football alone.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 4:15 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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I would imagine that the schools keep a majority of the gate and send a portion to the county so your number is off. My school brings in 200K from football alone.
Regardless... it is a drop in the bucket. It also does not change the ridiculousness of the notion that teachers should do more to bring in revenue to the school, in order to "deserve" higher salaries.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 4:19 pm to SaturdayTraditions
I'm pretty certain that when my wife taught at a Katy ISD HS, the head football coach taught a couple of PE classes, and was also the Athletic Director. That seems like a common thing at least in the Houston area.
Also, in the picture in the USA Today article, the black guy to the right of the coach, I'm fairly certain that's the superintendent for Katy ISD.
Also, in the picture in the USA Today article, the black guy to the right of the coach, I'm fairly certain that's the superintendent for Katy ISD.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 4:21 pm to double d
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One of my old coaches tracked his hours spent on coaching (he was an assistant for two HS sports). He then totaled it up and divided his coaching pay (stipend above base teaching salary) to see how much an hour he made for coaching. Made well below minimum wage for those hours.
A friend of mine is a OC for a Catholic HS in Louisiana. He did this and it was like 16 cents an hour.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 4:21 pm to rlebl39
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This, my coach in HS was also AD for the School.
I went to a Houston area 5A (Now 6A) school and our HC was also the AD as well. I didn't realize it was something so common and figured it was just because our school district was cheap.
I would imagine a good bit of them making in the six figures this article is talking about are also the AD as well.
the vast majority are ... they are paid a salary as an administrator with a masters, so they're already bumping the 70-80s, and they get a 5-figure stipend as hc, in addition to whatever the local spirit club/donor club gives them, if any, so $100000 is not exactly eye-popping ... most don't teach a class, at least not the ones employed by a 5A or 6A school ... but they might teach 1 or 2 health classes or PE classes for athletes ... anyone teaching in public ed should be aware of their salary and not shocked by it ...
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 4:31 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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The Dallas ISD alone brought in over $1.3 Billon last school year. Not because of football games or any other spectator event. Your football revenue is a drop in the bucket.
you realize Dallas ISD is one of the shittiest athletic departments in the state right? When was the last time a Dallas ISD school did anything in football?
ETA: I'd like to see what a school like Aledo, Allen or Katy brings in and how much revenue they bring in compared to like the 20 high schools that are a apart of Dallas ISD.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 4:44 pm to SaturdayTraditions
- Dale Weiner is there or more.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 4:55 pm to McCaigBro69
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you realize Dallas ISD is one of the shittiest athletic departments in the state right? When was the last time a Dallas ISD school did anything in football? ETA: I'd like to see what a school like Aledo, Allen or Katy brings in and how much revenue they bring in compared to like the 20 high schools that are a apart of Dallas ISD.
No I did not realize this. Don't keep up with Texas high school sports much. I would love to see the numbers where gate revenue are more than 5% of a districts revenue though. I don't think it exists... Again bring me justification that says a coach and team packing a stadium makes the pay discrepancy between them and teachers acceptable.
It doesn't exist.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 5:11 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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Regardless... it is a drop in the bucket
200K is a drop in the bucket to a single school?
Come on man, that can pay for four more teachers or whatever else the school decides. quote:
It also does not change the ridiculousness of the notion that teachers should do more to bring in revenue to the school, in order to "deserve" higher salaries.
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. It helps justify paying coaches more.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 5:12 pm to LSUFanHouston
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A friend of mine is a OC for a Catholic HS in Louisiana. He did this and it was like 16 cents an hour.
I did it for my first year and I earned 25 cents an hour
Posted on 7/19/16 at 5:14 pm to McCaigBro69
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ETA: I'd like to see what a school like Aledo, Allen or Katy brings in and how much revenue they bring in compared to like the 20 high schools that are a apart of Dallas ISD.
I can guarantee that those school have a half a million dollar budget for football if not close to a million.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 5:36 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
I get what everyone is saying...I also think that the Texas HS football culture these days is shaped more by the growing suburbs and new facilities than it is by the coaches themselves. You have schools winning titles in their 4th year of existence.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 5:39 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Head football coaches at the public schools in Texas more often then not have masters degrees and are the campus's athletic coordinator. They are considered an administrator just like an assistant principal. They do not teach and their daily schedules are usually packed with a multitude of responsibilities to and around the school. Coaches get their 50k+ teaching salary and anywhere between 10-20k stipends for coaching. You cannot coach kids in Texas public school if you are not a state certified teacher. Most coaches may teach between 2-4 classes with 2 athletic periods and a conference period or two.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 5:41 pm to BatonrougeCajun
Katy and Allen don't have half a million dollar budgets. They may be able to fundraise quite a bit to supliment their budget but I think most Texas high schools operate on a 20k-40k total budget from the school district
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:41 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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Cinco Ranch High School
Katy ISD
Coach: Donald Clayton
Salary: $127,011
Years with current team: 27
27 years? Hmm not bad considering the HS opened in '99.
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Katy High School
Katy ISD
Coach: Gary Joseph
Salary: $132,011
Years with current team: 33
33 years? I remember when he got there in '04. Maybe they mean years coaching.
BTW, he's 123-11-0.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:46 pm to Cdawg
Probably means years with the district which I'm guessing is big with how raises are received
Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:10 pm to McCaigBro69
Damn Poos, let me know when some jobs open over there
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