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re: Fifteen Houston- area HS football coaches make at least $100k
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:13 pm to SaturdayTraditions
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:13 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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Looks like they could be implimenting it state-wide this year
When was the last time anything in the Texas Educational System overhauled besides what they call the state test
I lived through TAAS, TAKS and STARR testing.
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:17 pm to McCaigBro69
Yeah the way schools are funded here and with how booster clubs contribute in some cases it lends itself to higher income areas being better. You can see that if you're familiar with Houston from that slideshow, there were only a handful of not so great schools I saw where the coaches were making bigger money.
They also all recruit kids to move to their district. The bigger HS football jobs are pretty high pressure, you don't get much sympathy for the kids just trying hard. In lots of instances at the major programs the coaches are angling for a college assistant job too
They also all recruit kids to move to their district. The bigger HS football jobs are pretty high pressure, you don't get much sympathy for the kids just trying hard. In lots of instances at the major programs the coaches are angling for a college assistant job too
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:19 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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a kid is a kid and they don't want to be in class.
An average coach can bring in $175,000 to his school. On the extreme end, they can bring in $350,000 in one game. (which rarely happens)
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:23 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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What does any of that have to do with what you quoted. I don't care if the school is underfunded or if the parents make $300k, a kid is a kid and they don't want to be in class.
Look, I went to a high school where football was everything in the suburbs and everyone's parents had a good job. All I'm saying is, is that my parents and the about 300+ other parents of my graduating class didn't mind approving higher taxes or electing athletic minded school board members in high school because paying the head coach twice what any other teacher was getting didn't effect anyone getting into college.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:29 pm to barry
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Teachers won't have their name dragged through the mud on TV, Radio and print if they don't have a great year. Pay them the money.
That may be true in Texas. I doubt many other areas of the country would create a hot seat watch for HS coaches who aren't doing well.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:31 pm to c on z
Are you serious?
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:36 pm to TJG210
State testing adds pressure to all core subject teachers. Don't play the whole 'coaches get their name thrown around on radio' card and expect sympathy. They know that going into the job.
I also don't buy the entertainment value either. Packing Jerry World's lower bowl? That is for a small number of schools compared to the thousand-plus across the state.
I have no problem with coaches making more money, but only because of the hours they spend doing it. Furthermore, let's not pretend that all coaches are stellar teachers in the classroom.
I also don't buy the entertainment value either. Packing Jerry World's lower bowl? That is for a small number of schools compared to the thousand-plus across the state.
I have no problem with coaches making more money, but only because of the hours they spend doing it. Furthermore, let's not pretend that all coaches are stellar teachers in the classroom.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:43 pm to TexasTiger08
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State testing adds pressure to all core subject teachers.
I believe it's all subjects. At least it is in Georgia.
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I also don't buy the entertainment value either.
Just averaging 5,000 fans a game can bring in a serious chunk of change. And I doubt that most schools in Texas pay their head football coaches six figures. Those that get paid that amount generally deserve it.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:49 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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I believe it's all subjects. At least it is in Georgia.
Not in Texas...only core subjects.
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Just averaging 5,000 fans a game can bring in a serious chunk of change. And I doubt that most schools in Texas pay their head football coaches six figures. Those that get paid that amount generally deserve it.
Like I said, I agree they should get paid more,
But because of the hours they work. Some schools will get bounced in round 1 or 2 because of matchups alone, regardless of a 5-5 record or a 9-1 record. Fans will go to games anyway. Parents will support the kids, and students will help fill their sections.
Bluntly speaking, in high school (in Texas), the program makes the coach more than the other way around...in my opinion.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 2:01 pm to TexasTiger08
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Not in Texas...only core subjects.
How is that fair to anyone? And it makes no sense to me.
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Fans will go to games anyway. Parents will support the kids, and students will help fill their sections.
Try coaching at a school that goes 1-9
Posted on 7/19/16 at 2:02 pm to TexasTiger08
I would bet all of these coaches are also the athletic director of school. I would say over 90% of ad are the head football coach. This allows them to get about 30k or more or less depending on district in stipends. A hfc. An get 15 to 20k. The ad can give them an additional 10-15 k. Add years of service add other stipends. In my past district( I just moved to a different one) the hc didn't teach as of this past school year other than athletics. Prior to that my feeder hc taught a couple health classes or pe. The coordinators now have more time off and are limited on what core classes they teach.
Also the testing does add stress to regular teachers. And it is t in every subject or even every core at middle school. I taught 8th grade social studies in an inner city school that as a whole struggled on the 8th grade staar. When not coaching and doing my regular school prep. I was doing data research. Meeting on what we will change to get more kids to pass. Etc. moving to a new school this year I will not be teaching a tested subject. 7th grAde doc studies isn't tested. Plus I will have 2 athletic periods= less stress
Also the testing does add stress to regular teachers. And it is t in every subject or even every core at middle school. I taught 8th grade social studies in an inner city school that as a whole struggled on the 8th grade staar. When not coaching and doing my regular school prep. I was doing data research. Meeting on what we will change to get more kids to pass. Etc. moving to a new school this year I will not be teaching a tested subject. 7th grAde doc studies isn't tested. Plus I will have 2 athletic periods= less stress
Posted on 7/19/16 at 2:04 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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Not a bad living if you can get it. Anyone know if Texas coaches are required to teach as well?
They all teach history
Posted on 7/19/16 at 2:17 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
History or pe.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 2:20 pm to McCaigBro69
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because paying the head coach twice what any other teacher was getting didn't effect anyone getting into college.
I'm not saying that a high paid coach means less kids go to college. I am saying that kids from every background prefer playing sports to sitting in class and therefore will give more effort on the playing field.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 2:21 pm to SaturdayTraditions
How generous of the schools to pay their coaches so well.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 2:21 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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How is that fair to anyone? And it makes no sense to me.
Well, any extracurricular activity that is a class deals with UIL events, which is stressful to those teachers just as a state test is to core teachers. With that said, fine arts teachers have that on their plate.
I think it is a pretty good system, but not perfect. For example, I am not sure how a shop teacher is judged for his job. If a band director's group does poorly at UIL contest, it reflects on him, just as a bad team reflects on the coach.
Also, if schools don't meet the scores or standards on the STAAR test, the school
could go under reconstitution. Basically, it means teachers and admin reapply for their jobs, and risk being reassigned. Teachers in inner-city schools face this a lot. In some instances, it makes little difference who the teachers are at some schools, the culture of a neighborhood can be that bad.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 2:43 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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Taylor High School Alief ISD Coach: JD Jordan Salary: $98,634.86
This is a joke. He's been in Katy's shadow since he arrived.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 2:49 pm to TexasTiger08
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I also don't buy the entertainment value either. Packing Jerry World's lower bowl? That is for a small number of schools compared to the thousand-plus across the state.
Have you ever been to the state championships at Jerry World?
I played in a state championship game at the old Cowboys Stadium back in 2007 and our two 3A schools filled the lower bowl. I had a graduating class of 137.
Hell, back in 2006 46,000+ packed into the old Cowboys Stadium to watch Southlake and Euless play.
To say that the product which turns into the entertainment value of the schools football programs don't add to how much coaches get paid is a joke.
ETA: I'm not saying this is the only reason, because I work with high school coaches on a daily basis in my job and I know the crazy hours they put into it, but it definitely plays a part.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 3:07 pm to McCaigBro69
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To say that the product which turns into the entertainment value of the schools football programs don't add to how much coaches get paid is a joke.
To insinuate that this has anything to do with why classroom teachers don't get paid that much is even more of a joke.
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When two teachers can pack the lower two bowls at Jerry World for the state championship maybe, until then it's the guys who wear the headsets who get the big paycheck.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 3:14 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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To insinuate that this has anything to do with why classroom teachers don't get paid that much is even more of a joke.
If teachers brought in an actual revenue stream to the schools instead of bitching about it after they knew exactly the pay bracket they'd likely be sitting in until they retired then I'm sure they'd be paid better. They'd officially be more of an asset.
Why should anyone in any place of work, whether it's a school, business or non-profit be paid more for bringing in less revenue? Straight teacher's are paid less because they work nine months out of the year, roughly and decide to show a freaking movie to the class on two Fridays out of every month.
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