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FBS coaches support splitting targeting rule into two categories
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:11 pm
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Todd Berry, the executive director of the American Football Coaches Association, said Wednesday that the FBS coaches in their annual meeting unanimously supported a model that would assign Targeting 1 or Targeting 2 to a player who makes forcible contact with the crown of his helmet. Targeting 1 fouls would result in a 15-yard penalty but no ejection or suspension. Targeting 2 fouls would result in an automatic ejection and potential suspension.
The current rule states any targeting foul results in a player being automatically ejected and, if the foul occurred in the second half of a game, suspended for the first half of the next contest. Every potential targeting rule is reviewed by replay officials, and the reply booth can initiate a targeting review if it isn't called on the field.
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Berry referred to flagrant fouls in basketball, where fouls are split into Flagrant 1 and Flagrant 2, as a potential model for college football's targeting rule.
"Targeting 1 would carry a 15-yard penalty, meaning that there was no malicious intent here," Berry said. "We recognize this was not something where they're trying to hurt or maim someone else. Targeting 2 would be that of malicious intent, the one we're all trying to get rid of. And, to further that, our coaches have suggested if you have multiple Targeting 2 penalties over the course of the year, we would like to see that individual be even more severely punished than a one-game suspension. We need to eliminate those people from the game if we can't eliminate the act."
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The earliest a change could happen would be the 2020 college football season.
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:13 pm to BigBrod81
That's a good start, because the rule as it stands now is completely and utterly absurd.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:17 pm to BigBrod81
quote:Malicious intent really isn't an issue anymore. Taylor Mays isn't out there killing people. None of the nonsense targeting calls deal with a malicious intent element. Also don't know how malicious intent is determined. 90% of nonsense targetings have turned into people trying to make a play and body parts aren't always easily controlled.
"Targeting 2 would be that of malicious intent, the one we're all trying to get rid of."
I don't know if the prescription is right but if the medicine is correct (a lone 15 yard penalty) okay by me.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:17 pm to BigBrod81
quote:Talons out
Todd Berry
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:17 pm to BigBrod81
The rule needs to incorporate fault on the offensive player and should always take into account intent.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:19 pm to Fun Bunch
Throwing White out of a football game for what he did should be criminal.
Discussions surrounding changing the rule should involve a lawyer playing video of that play to the decision makers, turning around and saying, "y'all threw this kid out of a football game for this you fricks," and then walking out.
Discussions surrounding changing the rule should involve a lawyer playing video of that play to the decision makers, turning around and saying, "y'all threw this kid out of a football game for this you fricks," and then walking out.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:28 pm to BigBrod81
Why cant it start for 2019? There are targeting hits and then there are TARGETING hits.
It's pretty obvious when you see one that is clearly an accident vs one where the guy went in at best like a total moron without regard to safety and at worst an attempt to knock a dude out.
It's pretty obvious when you see one that is clearly an accident vs one where the guy went in at best like a total moron without regard to safety and at worst an attempt to knock a dude out.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:30 pm to ReauxlTide222
I think it was West Virginia in their bowl game but the kid who basically speared the receiver while he was on the ground would be a good example of what targeting 2 should be.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:09 pm to BigBrod81
Something absolutely needs to be done
Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:15 pm to BigBrod81
No no no. They do not need to give the refs this authority in any way. Keep everything the same, but take away the ejection. Bare minimum take out the ejection carrying over to the next damn game.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:30 pm to BigBrod81
Attention needs to be brought to the reply procedure that when a defender is going in to correctly tackle an offensive player & said offensive player's body is altered in any way by his own action or the action of another player causing him to then take a helmet to helmet hit should result in the flag being waived off.
I absolutely despise seeing a player getting flagged & even worse ejected for a clean intended hit where in the last millisecond the ball carrier slips or ducks or bends from another tackle/hit.
I absolutely despise seeing a player getting flagged & even worse ejected for a clean intended hit where in the last millisecond the ball carrier slips or ducks or bends from another tackle/hit.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 6:23 pm to forever lsu30
The rule as it is written is absurd. Just one example is a guy gets flagged in the closing minutes of the first half. Sits out the rest of the game. If that same play happens on the opening drive in the 3rd quarter he’s basically having a full game suspension vs just a half. I know the counter argument is that a player could be flagged early in a game and that’s also pretty much a full game suspension but this one area just shows how silly it is. Make it a 15 yarder and let suspensions be handed out after games. Take it out of the refs hands.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 6:53 pm to TU Rob
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Make it a 15 yarder and let suspensions be handed out after games. Take it out of the refs hands.
Agree with this.
I think ejections are ridiculous. Ejections should be reserved for punching another player or an official, not for tackling somebody, even if it’s a rough or unnecessary hit. Penalty is fine and we can all debate what should or should not be a penalty, but ejecting a player from a game is ludicrous IMO.
If they’re adamant about keeping ejections as part of the rule, ejections should be reserved for the worst-of-the-worst kind of hits and should not be decided by officials or replay officials in the heat of the moment. It should be thoroughly reviewed after the game and then suspension handed out if warranted.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 6:57 pm
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