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re: Every argument against playoff expansion has been proven correct this year

Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80482 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:03 pm to
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Why don’t people do this during the basketball tournament?


Bc basketball is a different animal and people have long ago come to terms with the regular season not being very interesting. The season basically starts in March.
Posted by AkronTiger
Rubber City
Member since May 2021
2351 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:18 pm to
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I think it just proves my point that this system benefits elite programs that piddled around during the regular season.


Yep. Its designed to give the most talented teams a few mulligans so they can still get in. That gives more talent in the playoffs with higher ratings.

The longer the season goes on, the cream rises.
Posted by npt817
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
1612 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:59 pm to
The problem that this was meant to solve was teams like UCF having an undefeated season or a conference champ getting left out in favor of another sec team and thinking they should/could have won the National title. Now we get to see what they can really do and there’s no more doubt. Right now it’s proven that those teams couldn’t compete. Maybe some years we get some that make it all the way. This setup allows for that to be played out.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 10:06 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80482 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:35 pm to
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The problem that this was meant to solve was teams like UCF having an undefeated season or a conference champ getting left out in favor of another sec team and thinking they should/could have won the National title.


We didn’t need 12 (and soon 16) teams to allow for the occasional Cinderella. A 6 or 8 team playoff would’ve done that. It’s just always MOAR MOAR and will never stop until the sport is unrecognizable.

Posted by 4quartaBamaball
Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Nov 2015
1705 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 5:40 am to
Or we hate seeing the sport we love continue to be degraded and devalued.
Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
2304 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 6:23 am to
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The biggest beneficiaries of this system will be the premier programs getting multiple mulligans every year. Ohio State, Penn State, and Texas all fit this. Alabama nearly got in with 3 losses.


Nailed it. This overrides any benefit to the expanded playoff argument to me. The best teams will get mulligans all to give smaller teams a pipe dream’s chance to win four in a row.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27901 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 6:26 am to
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Texas, and Penn State all had disappointing regular seasons


Unless you are including a conference title game, I’d argue they had pretty good regular seasons.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30682 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 8:02 am to
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SOS should determine seeding

They should invent an unbiased way to factor in SOS to rankings. Maybe like use a computer to factor in the polls……
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
51601 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:07 am to
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You’re going to really hate it when it goes to 16.

This isn’t about what is best for the sport. It’s about money. Period.


Yep. 16 teams in addition to keeping the Conference Championship games.

Because money.

It's only a bad thing when you aren't the guy making the money.

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38639 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:08 am to
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TLDR: This system blows.


Yea a 4 team playoff was about perfect. Six teams max. I didn't want the expansion, thought it would be bad, and it's actually worse than I thought.
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1247 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:10 am to
I think it’s great and the sport needs time to adjust.

They can do some tweaking. Would love to see more games on campus.

IMO more teams getting to play for a national title makes the sport healthier overall.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38127 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:39 am to
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Oregon went 13-0, and their reward was this embarrassment.


In the Poll Era, they would be National Champs....deservedly so beating Boise State, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State in the regular season and then most likely beating Indiana.

And as the only undefeated.

But the regular season losses to do-over powers is what we've created. Congrats on those clamoring for a Playoff all these years, you frickin' ruined CFB and the importance and sanctity of every game matters and the regular season IS the frickin' Playoff!!! Thanks Herbie and ESPN, you started this shite with 2011 Alabama and your grimey greed to rig it and now the sport is unrecognizable.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 9:40 am
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
17819 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:40 am to
Dude it’s going to 14/16. Hold your well thought out arguments. Total shitshow made for tv.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
6768 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:44 am to
12 is fine. Just fix the seeding.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80482 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:47 am to
At the least, conference championship games should go away. Then rank the teams using the BCS method.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16706 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:33 pm to
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Texas, and Penn State all had disappointing regular seasons


How did they have disappointing regular seasons? They lost a single game all year, both to a top-5 team.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4075 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:41 pm to
They expanded the playoff to make more money. They made more; a lot more. That’s really where the discussion can start and end. $1.3B/yr TV deal that kicks in after next season. That’s $100M per playoff game.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 12:43 pm
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