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re: ESPN ranks Top 30 Centers
Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:53 pm to RonBurgundy
Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:53 pm to RonBurgundy
Even if you don't believe that Gasol is the best C in the league seeing him at 8th should make you realize how ridiculous the whole thing is
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:54 pm to Toula
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And he just turned 20 on Sunday.
This ranking is clearly not based on future success or else Okafor would not be at #28.
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Among Centers, He's 8th in PER, 8th in Value Added, 8th in Wins Added.
Through 10 games. He's good but I don't see how he gets ranked over Greg Monroe.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:56 pm to UncleBlazer
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He's good but I don't see how he gets ranked over Greg Monroe.
I think it's because he's a better basketball player.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:59 pm to PortCityTiger24
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I think it's because he's a better basketball player.
You say that like it's a fact
He's not btw
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:01 pm to UncleBlazer
According to this guy he is.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:02 pm to UncleBlazer
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He's not btw
OK dude. To each his own. 
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:04 pm to RTR America
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6.2 rebounds
Stud
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:11 pm to Lester Earl
Capela/Biyombo/etc play 18 mpg and average more than that.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:12 pm to td01241
Just glancing at Hollinger's statistics
Greg Monroe:
PER- 24.93
TS%- .587
Assist Ratio- 15.4
TO Ratio- 9.4
Rebound Rate- 17.5
Value Added- 72.7
KAT
PER-20.87
TS%-.548
Assist Ratio- 6.4
TO Ratio- 11.6
Rebound Rate- 20.1
Value Added-44.8
KAT is 13th in PER for centers not 8th.
Greg Monroe has a much better PER, VA, TS%. Look at KAT assist and TO ratios
Monroe also is a better offensive rebounder. Now KAT is better on the defensive side but I don't think he makes up for how much better of an offensive player Monroe is.
Greg Monroe:
PER- 24.93
TS%- .587
Assist Ratio- 15.4
TO Ratio- 9.4
Rebound Rate- 17.5
Value Added- 72.7
KAT
PER-20.87
TS%-.548
Assist Ratio- 6.4
TO Ratio- 11.6
Rebound Rate- 20.1
Value Added-44.8
KAT is 13th in PER for centers not 8th.
Greg Monroe has a much better PER, VA, TS%. Look at KAT assist and TO ratios
Monroe also is a better offensive rebounder. Now KAT is better on the defensive side but I don't think he makes up for how much better of an offensive player Monroe is.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:13 pm to Lester Earl
Jesus you two need helmets
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:15 pm to UncleBlazer
Three phases Defense, Rebounding, Offense. If you break it down into those three simple phases of the game KAT is better at 2 of them.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:17 pm to RTR America
I can promise you brother lots of people would get a good laugh outta those rebounding numbers.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:19 pm to Boomshockalocka
Or watching Drummond, Jordan or Howard shoot
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:19 pm to Boomshockalocka
Bet they would big guy
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:19 pm to td01241
And that would be a very simplistic way to compare two players. Seriously dude
Also, Monroe is a better offensive rebounder.
Also, Monroe is a better offensive rebounder.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:20 pm to RonBurgundy
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Or watching Drummond, Jordan or Howard shoot
Or pass
Or make a post move
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:21 pm to UncleBlazer
It is very simplistic I was just saying. I like KAT a lot. Monroe is kinda meh to me.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:23 pm to td01241
I don't see how you can say that considering how well Monroe is playing right now. And this is without a healthy Jabari Parker to create more space.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:25 pm to UncleBlazer
Posted on 11/17/15 at 4:27 pm to RTR America
Shaq couldn't shoot either.
Finishing ability(read: easy buckets not 50% midrange jumpers), rebounding, rim defense are all more valuable skills than having "a post move". Or making a 15 footer. That's why you see those 3 ranked above Gasol.
Finishing ability(read: easy buckets not 50% midrange jumpers), rebounding, rim defense are all more valuable skills than having "a post move". Or making a 15 footer. That's why you see those 3 ranked above Gasol.
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