re: ESPN 30 for 30: O.J. Made In America

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The one person that showed true emotion over the actually murders other than the victims family members, & actually said that he wanted to kill OJ's arse.

I couldn't help but to shed some tears during his breakdown.

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yeah... Shipp seemed to be the only "independent" person in this case who truly cared for justice

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Shipp seemed to be the only "independent" person in this case who truly cared for justice

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Yeah he came off looking like a genuinely great guy. He didn't let his friendship blind his ability to do the right thing.

Just watched the first hour of Part 1, I lol'd hard when the guy said Chevy was getting "brownie points" for making O.J. the first black advertising star.

I thought is was going to be biased and SJW, but it isn't IMO. I thought it was very well done and put all the sides and facts out there on the table.

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i dont see what that has to do with people acting like he was doing unethical shite

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You make a fair point if you point out it was not Johnnie Cochran that made the system so amoral. He only exploited that system for personal benefit.

The thing is Cochran didn't just represent himself as a great lawyer who could get anyone off. He enjoyed being a respected member of the African American community as a result of how successfully he played the race card to get a guilty client off.

If you cross over from using your skill like everyone else to set yourself up as a moral pillar society? When the opposite is closer to the truth? That does deserve criticism.

There were institutional problems in the police force (including some incidents motivated by racism as well as political opportunism) and unacceptable idiots doing retarded things for the prosecution. He was right to point out the former and doing his job when he pointed out the latter. But a person with a sense of decency probably just can't be a defense attorney I guess... because at some point when you get a piece of shite put back on the street you should feel like you helped to make society a worse place.

If he had been able to be honest after the "not guilty" verdict and tell the truth about why we should look at the big picture and reform the criminal justice system as a whole (including the subversion of it by people like him) then I'd feel differently. He was a made man at that point after all. He really could have become a great American of larger significance if he had that kind of vision.

Actually I think Goldman's dad played a hand in getting Simpson in the end. Stayed after his money and in turn Simpson made a costly decision trying to get more money.

The problem with Cochran is he made an immoral decision to invoke images of racial injustice in a case where it was not applicable. The case did nothing to improve race relations or benefit black America in anyway. He exploited racial injustices for his own personal gain. Its not just doing your job. Its disgraceful. He uses instances of racial injustice to glorify himself and is championed for it. He is really a vulture exploiting his own people and making their plight worse in the process.

Jesus those crime scene photos were brutal. Finishing up Part 4 then going to attempt to get some sleep after seeing that.

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he made an immoral decision to invoke images of racial injustice in a case where it was not applicable

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The case did nothing to improve race relations or benefit black America in anyway.

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ok? i dont think that was ever his actual goal

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He exploited racial injustices for his own personal gain

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more like for the gain of his client

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Its not just doing your job

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yes it is

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He uses instances of racial injustice to glorify himself and is championed for it.

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and for OJ, his client

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He is really a vulture exploiting his own people and making their plight worse in the process.

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he also got an acquittal for his client who was unquestionably guilty, which was his job

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He enjoyed being a respected member of the African American community as a result of how successfully he played the race card to get a guilty client off.

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right. he created a narrative based off his background and the social environment at that time to get his client off. that was his job. do whatever the frick he had to do, within the law, to get OJ acquitted. who cares how he did it. the fact is he did. and that was his job

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If you cross over from using your skill like everyone else to set yourself up as a moral pillar society? When the opposite is closer to the truth? That does deserve criticism.

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and i have no problem if you want to criticize cochran for ultimately being a hypocrite. my only issue comes from when people act like hes some piece of shite for getting OJ acquitted. that was his job. hes a defense attorney. we can argue all we want about whether or not there is some moral ramifications on defending such a blatantly guilty man, but i cant fault the guy for doing his job and doing it well given the circumstances of the trial

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But a person with a sense of decency probably just can't be a defense attorney I guess

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there probably is some truth to this. however, there was a poster maybe 5 or 6 pages back who wanted to make it outright illegal for defense attorneys to represent clients who they believe are guilty. thats pretty ridiculous and thats more of the people i was responding to