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re: ESPN 30 for 30: O.J. Made In America
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:23 am to Taurus
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:23 am to Taurus
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please, bring the proof.
Just compare white collar crime sentences vs. others.
White dude can embezzle millions off the government and get probation. Black guy can break into a couple of parked cars and get 3 to 5.
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:26 am to BilJ
I was sickened by the amount of blatant racism by the really old black woman juror and Carl Douglas.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:29 am to RDRGeaux09
Wrong. Riots happened over ONE incident in L.A. The Rodney King verdict .... They went fricking bat crazy over that. If O. J. Was found guilty there would not have been as much rioting but some.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:30 am to RDRGeaux09
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What proof do I need other than the damn documentary that this thread is about???!! The Rodney King case and the Latasha Harlins case are all the proof that I need right there!
But I don't argue with fools. Google race and sentincing, there are plenty of articles cited there
I think it's pretty clear what the documentary is doing. It explores why blacks were happy about the O.J. verdict while also strongly implying that O.J. was a psychopath who killed his wife. Most people don't seem to realize both sides were right.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 9:37 am
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:33 am to Bench McElroy
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I think it's pretty clear what the documentary is doing. It explores why blacks were happy about the O.J. verdict while also strongly implying that O.J. was a psychopath who killed his wife. Most people didn't seem to realize that both sides were right.
It seems like some of the posters in this thread haven't watched much, if any, of the actual documentary
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:35 am to ReauxlTide222
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There is also a disproportionate amount of violent crime committed by black people, so it comes with the territory...fair or not.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:07 am to dukke v
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ESPN 30 for 30: O.J. Made In America by dukke v
Wrong. Riots happened over ONE incident in L.A. The Rodney King verdict .... They went fricking
Over one trail maybe but let's not act like that was the only time
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:37 am to Dire Wolf
No it wasn't the only time they had riots. The Watts riots in the 60's is another one. But the King riots were very stupid. But I do believe the cops got away with it and should have all gone to jail. I Missouri they had ZERO reason to protest. If Micheal Brown had NOT been robbing that store he may still be alive today. I have ZERO blame to the cop for shooting him. He was acting like s thug and paid the price. His parents act like he was so innocent. That's a bunch of crap. Maybe if they had raised him right????? Hhhhmmmmmmmm.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:46 am to Lucky_Dog
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I was sickened by the amount of blatant racism by the really old black woman juror and Carl Douglas.
I'm through part 3 but Douglas seems to just be laying down the facts and how they approached the trial. I actually thought his comments about staging the home were hilarious.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:55 am to dukke v
Not sure how the legal system continually allows some in our society to act with impunity.
The cops who beat Rodney King should have gone to jail, no doubt.
OJ should have been found guilty, no doubt.
Justice is justice.
The cops who beat Rodney King should have gone to jail, no doubt.
OJ should have been found guilty, no doubt.
Justice is justice.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:06 pm to Bench McElroy
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I think it's pretty clear what the documentary is doing. It explores why blacks were happy about the O.J. verdict while also strongly implying that O.J. was a psychopath who killed his wife. Most people don't seem to realize both sides were right.
Perhaps they'll explain more in Part 4 or 5, but I am still having trouble understanding the celebration. If people were celebrating because they thought an innocent man beat the murder charge, then fine, I get it. They were misled and thought he was framed, and they're 99% wrong, but it is understandable.
If people were celebrating because a "black" murderer got off and it was a big F-you to the system, I'll never understand that logic. First of all, it is painfully clear that OJ had no association with the black community, and that would have been obvious at the time too. Second, the same injustice that allowed the Rodney King cops to get off is what allowed OJ to beat the wrap - jurors that mostly saw race and that's it. If you want justice for Rodney King and years of police brutality, letting a murderer walk isn't going to get it. That isn't a "win" for your cause, you're simply fighting injustice with more injustice.
I guess a better way to put it is that I understand the celebration immediately, but even the most basic critical thinking should help someone realize that it is actually a blow to race relations and the fight to be treated equally and fairly. The only way OJ verdict could harm race relations was a not guilty verdict, so to celebrate that verdict seems incredibly short-sighted.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:17 pm to slackster
quote:You don't get it and you probably never will. Let it go
Perhaps they'll explain more in Part 4 or 5, but I am still having trouble understanding the celebration. If people were celebrating because they thought an innocent man beat the murder charge, then fine, I get it. They were misled and thought he was framed, and they're 99% wrong, but it is understandable.
If people were celebrating because a "black" murderer got off and it was a big F-you to the system, I'll never understand that logic. First of all, it is painfully clear that OJ had no association with the black community, and that would have been obvious at the time too. Second, the same injustice that allowed the Rodney King cops to get off is what allowed OJ to beat the wrap - jurors that mostly saw race and that's it. If you want justice for Rodney King and years of police brutality, letting a murderer walk isn't going to get it. That isn't a "win" for your cause, you're simply fighting injustice with more injustice.
I guess a better way to put it is that I understand the celebration immediately, but even the most basic critical thinking should help someone realize that it is actually a blow to race relations and the fight to be treated equally and fairly. The only way OJ verdict could harm race relations was a not guilty verdict, so to celebrate that verdict seems incredibly short-sighted.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:21 pm to slackster
Hell, I don't see how they even viewed it was a victory for the black community, it only showed if you have the means to pay for a dream team of representation then you can beat the system
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:24 pm to BilJ
Finally some sense in here...... 
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:27 pm to BilJ
I say any black guy that would have gotten off like him would have been cheered on.
In a slightly related case , but opposite, was the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman case.
I saw my own father in law high fiving people in the bar we were in when GZ was acquitted.
In a slightly related case , but opposite, was the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman case.
I saw my own father in law high fiving people in the bar we were in when GZ was acquitted.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:29 pm to slackster
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Perhaps they'll explain more in Part 4 or 5, but I am still having trouble understanding the celebration
If you don't understand now you will never understand. I think it's just best to leave it at that.
When we're speaking on the matters of race relations it's perfectly ok if you don't understand the other side.
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In a slightly related case , but opposite, was the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman case.
I saw my own father in law high fiving people in the bar we were in when GZ was acquitted
Good example.
I didn't get why people celebrate a piece of crap like Zimmerman getting off but I respect the fact that I lack a unique perspective that others have. I only have my perspective. I can't tell others how to feel about things. Just express my side of it and leave it at that.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:29 pm to BilJ
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Hell, I don't see how they even viewed it was a victory for the black community, it only showed if you have the means to pay for a dream team of representation then you can beat the system
And OJ showed his community how to get ahead. Be an individual not a slave to welfare/gangs/ etc. and beat the system.
But the black community for some odd reason celebrated two deaths of innocent people like they(black community) won their own freedom.
I will never forget seeing blacks come running out celebrating the not guilty verdict when I was driving home from class. Unreal.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:38 pm to MontyFranklyn
quote:bullshite.
You don't get it and you probably never will. Let it go
The celebration was fricked. It was a bunch of stupid pieces of shite celebrating...I'm not sure what or why they were celebrating.
For one, OJ was rich as frick, and tried his best to not associate with the people celebrating. This did not help them.
2. He was a high profile individual, not some hard working poor man supporting a family. He was nothing like the people who were celebrating.
3. The jury was damn near all black. They got their boy off. It wasn't really the justice system working flawlessly without race being an issue.
4. The majority of the black people in this doc have come off as racist as hell. Being racist as hell and proud of it is no way to cure racism.
5. An innocent man getting off would have been great. To want to man who damn near sawed off their wife's head to walk free literally makes you a piece of human shite.
What did this help? Money talks. That's it. What did they win? They just grew closer together and hive mentality got stronger. Bad things, imo.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:40 pm to MontyFranklyn
The people cheering are trying to pretend they knew he was guilty and cheered because a guilty black man beat the system. Will be interesting to see how the narrative continues to change. Its absurd. The lives of two victims became an afterthought after political opportunists and race baiters turned the trial into a platform for every injustice that ever occurred in LA. But the DA and judge each played a big role in creating the circus also, so its hard to feel too bad for the prosecution.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:42 pm to ReauxlTide222
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The celebration was fricked. It was a bunch of stupid pieces of shite celebrating...I'm not sure what or why they were celebrating.
Your mistake is you're trying to rationalize emotions.
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